howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
22:4181708someone told me tonight that dave(with i.d.s.) has come up with a new way of combatting benefit fraud.
from monday all claims forms will only be in english.
sounds rather scurrilous to me.
26 November 2010
06:2681713Brian Dixon
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26 November 2010
08:3281717howard,is that english or american english,but in some cases pidgeon english.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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27 November 2010
18:4081930Are poeple scared to post on this thread in case they're accused of racism ?
Roger
27 November 2010
18:4181932I rather suspect that is depressingly true Roger.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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27 November 2010
18:4681933it could be worse,ie gobbably gook. oops sorry it is.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 November 2010
18:4781936funnily enough roger, when i posted it i was going to quip that you had told me it, then decided against as some may have taken it seriously.
27 November 2010
21:118197228 November 2010
14:0482107I don't Know how true But we herd a rumor that netto and the pet shop next are having talks with Asda to convert the two shops in to one much like tesco express has any one heard anything about this.
28 November 2010
14:1082109I call a Spade a Spade as any one got one need to turn the garden over. Its this Country's Government that has made most of us Racist with one rule for Them and another for Us, its like the EU if its good for the country were in,If its good for Us the people were Out.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 November 2010
14:2582111Yes I heard some weeks ago that the shops there going round to the front of the centre,and that Asda is taking them all over and making it into one shop and also taking over the car park,but also told that is not right,so there you have two storys about it,but the roof at this time is being done up to stop the rain geting in.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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28 November 2010
15:4682117Roger, my view on race is that there is one human race, and as such racism is a contradictory term.
Nationality is a distinctive character of human beings, and a State is comprised of its land, boundaries and people. My view is that a governing authority is bound by Constitution to represent the interests of the people for whom it is elected and to exercise its governing authority within its designated boundaries, hence the principles of democracy and constitutional authority to be practised within set boundaries and for the people living within them.
This also applies for local administration.
The thread here is evidently to do with speaking and writing English and how to prevent benefit frauds. It's not clear which interpretation to allocate within its context, which might account for why people are uncertain what to write here.
Personally I apply the idea of equal principles to all countries, and am of the opinion that to do uphold the constitutional principles of our Country as outlined above, that a governing authority has set boundaries and people living within them to administer, is fully legal and within the spirit of our Constitution. It cannot be racism!
Ross Miller
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28 November 2010
20:1282161The Asda rumour is just that a rumour, Asda, the individual stores, the Planning Dept and the Landlord have all made it clear it is without foundation.
It is clear that multi-culturism has failed and has lead to a fractured society, consequently as a country we need to seriously consider a more integrative approach to incomers - insist on a minimum standard of written and spoken english, a clear path to citizenship and clear benefits to being a citizen (perhaps a higher universal tax credit or higher personal allowance), plus make it clear that incomers who break the law prior to attaining citizenship will be deported if cponvicted, whether they have family or not.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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28 November 2010
20:5782177the human rights act stops us deporting the majority of overseas criminals as explained on another recent thread.
most of the criminals that enter our country do so because the last government gave them the right of unrestricted entry, the present government claims they are bound by this.
in my opinion this is utter claptrap, they just like to keep in with our masters in brussels.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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29 November 2010
00:1482187Funnily enough it really does not - it is just the way that our judges have chosen to interpret it thus creating precedent.
We really do have to stop screwing ourselves over like this and play the game the same way our European neighbours do.
Whilst we are about it we should throw out the US:UK extradition treaty and European Arrest Warrants and renegotiate them to make them much fairer to UK citizens and genuine residents
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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29 November 2010
06:0382189ross,good call.
29 November 2010
09:2182204Ross, as ever, spot on.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 November 2010
09:4582211The HRA was an appalling drafted act as well as being wrong in itself.
You cannot just blame the judges.
Sad that the LDs are blocking getting rid of this farce.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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29 November 2010
19:5182326Yes there are indeed parts of it that a 1,000 monkeys with typewriters could have done a better job with, but our venerable judges could equally have done a better job at putting it into practice.
I do however disagree with you about the Act being wrong in itself - the principle of having a codified "Bill of Rights" is a good one
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 November 2010
19:5982328Ahhhh so you are coming around to the Conservative policy then Ross. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a Bill of Rights.
Personally I think it would be more effective to have the Act amended to include Duties and Responsibilities and giving them equal standing as rights, restoring a common sense balance.
