#21
Jan - I have just read your post. I am so sorry for the way you were treated. That is unforgivable, and so very avoidable too. All they had to do was think.
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#22
I am sorry but I stand by what I said we in this part of Kent have very good Hospitals, it remains to be seen what Dover will end up with and when I am also very sorry Mrs Higgins to hear about your husband,I did not know about that. If I had I would have chose my words more carefully,the last thing I would do is upset you. Thank you.
#23
Vic - listen, for goodness sake. There is good and bad in them all, and your experience happens to have been good, and for that I am glad. But overall, they are poor, and many people have experience - sometimes appalling experience - to support that view as well. Listening is a skill politicians need to cultivate. And anyone who gives a damn, too.
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#24
Sorry I have taken that one off,I would like to carry on but I have to go out now. Thank you.
Brian Dixon
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#25
vic,the nurse was no help at all,went there in pain,came out of there in pain,and still in pain now.
#26
I think that Trusts who employed the following :-
Rodney Ledwood ,
Clifford Ayling,
The chief executive at the K and C during the cervical smear scandal ( I forget his name ) .
The psychotherapist who raped clients and fellow care staff ( again the name escapes me )
The staff who where responsible for the C diff scandal at Maidstone Hospital ,
may not be best represented as paragons of good practice , it makes the blind defenders look rather silly , in my opinion . All we can say is our own experiences, to do otherwise can appear somewhat biggoted and rather offensive , in my opinion
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#27
Have to agree that the perception of health care is all down to personal experience. I have been fortunate enough to get to 63 years old without ever suffering anything remotely major. I used to call myself Stalin (man of steel). However, something has now finally gone wrong with the works and my own experience of the care received has been exemplary. The only caveat I would apply would refer to the travelling required. My doctor in Dover, Dr Flower, has been superb, and I have had examinations at Royal Victoria Hospital Folkestone, a bone scan at QEQM, a CT scan at Kent and Canterbury, and subsequently an operation at K&C. They have all been brilliant and I am back at sea again after only missing one two week duty on my ferry.
It is most regrettable that Buckland has been run down to the extent that it has and I agree entirely with Brian's remarks above concerning the lack of a doctor. Our Polish fitter on the ship was feeling unwell for several days and was sent off for a round trip to go to Buckland. On arriving there, he discovered that there was no doctor and that the nurse was unable to issue a prescription. He wound up going to a chemist and asking them what they recommended, duly bought some pills and came back to the ship. Not well, not happy, not cured, and not impressed.
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#28
Glad you're better Ed. Must be something about getting to 63; I'd never been in hospital till this year and I've been in several times in just three months, once spending 6 nights - in July.
Staff at Ashford and Canterbury hospitals have been exemplorary - the other patients have not been, stretched the staff's patience I'm sure.
Roger
Jan Higgins
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#29
I am sure a lot of the problems with patient rudeness are down to frustration, having to wait a long time to be seen and not being informed what is going on. Tell us why there is a long wait and how long we will have to wait, tell us in simple terms what is happening so we can go and get a drink or just go for a wander to relieve the boredom.
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#30
exactly jan, i have had to discharge myself twice from hospital due to being left with no indication of what was happening.
#31
It is often about the old perception - by staff - that the services are run for their benefit and the patients are simply there to justify that. Harsh, possibly, and certainly not true of all staff, but enough of them to leave a lasting impression.
SarahP - Ledward was my consultant. Arrogance doesn't even begin to describe.
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#32
Vic.
You have every right to praise the hospitals, if you have had satisfactory dealings with them.
I have every right to declare that parts of the QEQM are downright disgraceful.
However, you are being very short sighted in declaring, "there is nothing wrong with our hospitals" just because you have not been subjected to the other side of the coin.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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#33
Bern, I think pig is as polite as I can get about that man.
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#34
Bern I am so sorry to hear you had the misfortune to have seen Ledwood also Jan. If you met him I am sorry as well In another part of my life I had to deal with his victims and how they where treated by the system.
#35
I was lucky, SarahP, and am grateful for being relatively unscathed. My heart goes out to others who suffered far more, as I clearly don't need to tell you. I am still astounded, though, that Vic could assert that there is "nothing wrong with our hospitals" when he must have seen some of our posts and heard some of the comments about some of the appalling things we have sometimes experienced. None of us have ever claimed the local health services were all dreadful, but there is enough evidence that there are some significant areas of appalling practice. To say otherwise is an insult to the rest of us. And yes, I feel insulted by it.
#36
Like her or loathe her , Thank god for Sarah Harman and her office
#37
Indeed, SarahP. It is too easy to forget the good stuff our politicians do - and that was a good thing.
#38
Sorry Bern if I wasnt clear in my post .
I was refering to Harriets sister who was the solicitor who represented the victims of the NHS that I refrenced in my post . Mind you Harriet also played her part in making sure that the right political buttons where pressed .
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#39
I did not want to write this,but find I have to ,our son died because the information we should have got did not reach us, after the inquiry in London they found out that it because a member of the NHS was negligence,I found our son after coming home from work dead he was very fit and his age was 20. So I do see it from both sides, sorry I have no more to say about it.
#40
Im sorry for the circumstances you describe Vic , that shouldnt happen to anyone , I have personal knowlege of similar events happening in the area served by OUR hospitals and to see them defended blindly is as upsetting to me as I am sure it would be for you to read a blind defence of the unit that employed the person or persons responsible for not passing on the information that may have saved your son ,