howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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don't take it personally andrew, people wind up alex on here which sometimes culminates in a rant.
his heart is in the right place.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Not all people wear the same size shoes, Andrew.
Sometimes those who shout loudest for diversity and equality are the ones who try to prohibit other people's inherent liberties.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There was a case of one councillor in England who was allowed to be exempt from the prayers in which all other councillors participated.
Not content, he ended up taking the Council to Court, armed with an Atheist association. lawyers and all, to forbid the vast majority of councillors saying prayers.
He was convinced he was right.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
of course he was alex,probably had an ipod with the entire back catologe of black sabbath on it.

Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
- Posts: 57
Post #23. Alex, I have no problem with your or others practicing your religion. Regarding that case of a councillor, I hope you'd at least agree that he should have been allowed to be exempt from prayers?
Andrew Richardson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Being an adult, this councillor was allowed to be exempt from prayers, Andrew.
Yet he tried to enforce a Court injunction to prevent other adults saying prayers.
He succeeded. But the Community Secretary intervened and overturned the Court ruling.
We were a hair from becoming a totalitarian State, and our Christian Constitution had been threatened by a Court ruling that came equal to a coup against the Established Christian Faith.
Hence the ruling was overturned.
The next step would have been to prohibit children saying prayers at school.
No-one is forced to be a Christian, but this was an attempt to force Christians out of their Faith and to bring down the Christian Faith of the British State.
The original Court ruling was unconstitutional.
Some people out there are hell-bent on trying to make Christianity a hate-crime, and want to forbid the Faith by law.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
We are moving away from the actual heading, but just to make a couple of comments,
I'm with Andrew in most of his view,
In DDC they used to have prayers before a meeting, and those cllrs (there were more than 1) who didn't wish to take part left the chamber for this part of the meeting, then returned when it had finished, that way everyone was happy.
Then it died out and no longer took place.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
We need to faces the facts Islam will be playing a big part in this country in years to come
We invited mass populations from traditional Islamic countries to settle in the UK
These people tend to have bigger family units.
I am surprised that we don't already have Islamic political parties making inroads into the uk political system .
Ps. Postal voting needs to be stopped now, to prevent vote rigging
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is right about postal voting - totally abused in some faith communities.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
Still off topic- but the problem is the way in which we register to vote. No identity check at all. If you write a name on the annual registration form, it goes on the register; you should have to supply your NI number in order to register and this ought to be checked.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Postal voting should not be stopped some of us need or prefer it, that does not mean it should not be tightened up in some way.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Agreed jan
but peter raises some good ideas to
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Another political comment jan
I must say you're becoming a bit of a politico
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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nothing wrong with that jan
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Keep it up Jan. Put yourself up as a Labour candidate.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Jan
It appears some posters have decided to attack you, really don't know why
I welcome your views
whether or not I agree with them
Rather sad this latest outburst
but from some I suppose only expected
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
No thanks Peter, I could not put up with the rubbish from most POLITICAL (just for KeithB) parties, much easier to shout from the sidelines like most of us on here.

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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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On other thread she scaling for members that contributing and start political thirds to be band
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352