howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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starts july the 9th, do any members have plans for it?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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didn't work tom, maybe wetherspoons will have something planned like they do for st paddy's day?
Brian Dixon
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howard,read my t shirt when you see me next,because that's what I will be doing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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'It' works fine for me Howard.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Tesco is open 24/7.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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working now tom, call me old fashioned but alcoholic drinks available does not ring true.
been to a couple of muslim weddings and "fanta" and "pepsi" were the order of the day.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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oh dear will have to cut out the pork scratchings for a while.
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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I guess Channel 4 are trying to be clever and 'right on' by broadcasting the muslim call to prayer. But it will just wind people up; it certainly wound me up when I read about it.
And it always amazes me when left wing liberals (as I presume the chiefs at Channel 4 are) kow tow to Islam, one of the least liberal belief systems on the planet. I don't object to people being muslims if that's what they want to be, but I don't want anything to do with their religion (or anyone else's). If we start pandering to Islam in this way then we're idiots. Its like turning the clock back to the 7th century AD, and not the good bits.
Andrew Richardson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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lived amongst them for many years andrew, some of them very nice - their problem is self imposed apartheid and a failure to admit to the evil in their ranks.
having said that the elders of the finsbury park mosque alerted police to the fact that they had been infiltrated by fanatics and that arms were stored there.
our boys in blue decided it would be politically incorrect to take action.
Jan Higgins
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Not being remotely religious I have no particular view one way or the other but I will try to play devils advocate with the following.
Surely this is no better or worse than the broadcasting of the extra Christian programmes at Christmas and Easter, especially as there are so many practising Muslims in this country.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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Very sorry to hear the police decided not to act in such a case. Hopefully a while ago Howard?
I've got no problems with people who happen to be muslims. I have got issues with Islam though. Having said that, I think that all religions are relics of the past and look forward to the day when humanity doesn't need them anymore. Islam is just the worst of the lot.
I have huge respect for the millions of secular-minded people in Turkey, Egypt and elsewhere who are taking a stand against islamic leaning governments in their countries, and very pleased to see it looks like the Egyptian army is backing those people.
Andrew Richardson
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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Post #12. Personally Jan, I've got no desire to see Christian messages broadcast either. Christmas and Easter are largely secular festivals now anyway, and both have pre-Christian origins!
But my particular problem with Islam is this: despite residing in a technically 'Christian' country, I manage to live my life (almost) completely untroubled by the actions of the established religion (the C of E). But I have strong grounds for suspecting that if muslims ever became a majority in this country, they would set about starting to impose Islamic morals on the rest of us. I sincerely hope that day never comes, because there will be bloodshed as a result.
As a nation we should actively (but subtly) encourage the secularisation of the muslim population here. broadcasting the call to prayer on a mainstream TV channel does not help any of that.
Andrew Richardson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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About 15 - 20 years ago andrew, it was the hook handed cleric.
not clever enough myself to know the universal truths but have no problem with people's beliefs or no beliefs or non beliefs if they don't try to impose them on others.
i see religious fanatics and aggressive atheists in much the same light - good point about the secular lobbies in north africa and asia minor, been following it closely.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Andrew, yes I suppose we can all agree with you that Jesus Christ told Britain and European countries to start and fight WWI, and WWII too.
Jesus told the soldiers to go dumbly over the trenches and kill each other off.
And to just keep doing it until they were all either dead or wounded, or blind.
Oh yeah, right, Jesus blinded them...with gas.
Yes it was Jesus who sent children down coal mines in Britain during the Industrial Revolution, and of-course it is Jesus who tells Britain and other countries that we must build and maintain nuclear missiles. Just in case we need them.
We are doing fine, Andrew, just blame everything on Jesus Christ.
Any more rubbish? I mean I just wrote a load of rubbish, didn't I!
I understand, I must blame everything on Jesus Christ.
Gosh! there I go again with rubbish!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Had the soldiers in the trenches in WWI just listened to Jesus who said:
DON'T DO TO OTHERS WHAT YOU WOULDN'T LIKE DONE TO YOU
then they'd have stuck a finger up at the head of the Army seated on a throne somewhere in London and gone home.
OK. There you go
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Weren't these monarchs who sent millions and millions of men to fight each other in WWI all brothers and sisters and interbred cousins?
They all had the same father, or was it the same mother?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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another set of 3 intressting posts from our resident vicar.
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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Posts #16-18; gosh, can I be bothered to reply? Not really.
Andrew Richardson