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A gimmick it may be, but they at least realise where the soft-spot is in Politics. A gimmick is what it should be as the best place for doctors and surgeons is not the Palace of Westminster.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
There are approximatley 103,722 doctors employed in the NHS so 50 is a very small proportion , but it does make a good headline/gimmick as Tom said
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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would you be a little more precise with the figures sarah?
I tried Howard , however those where the best I could access :-)
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#18, Reg, in #7 I was not referring to the medical profession, but the general population. But why should the medical elite dictate how the 'health service' (there's a double oxymoron for you) is run? Surely we the customers should have a greater voice than those who earn £100k+ a year from it? Every one of us has a vested interest in the NHS being run effectively, unless we are employed in it, in which case the reverse might be true.
Poor management and Spanish practices are the scourge of the NHS. An example: Yesterday I had to deliver my wife to the minor injuries unit at Buckland as she had gashed her leg badly on the iRoning board. Being Saturday afternoon I thought I'd pop the car in a 15 minute drop off space but it was obvious that it would be a while before she was seen. So I nipped out and moved the car into the street. In doing so I passed a young hospital employee dressed in his whites (kitchen? Male nurse?) leaning on a wall in the car park, right beside the no smoking sign, enjoying a fag break. When I got back inside I told Kathryn about it and we agreed that it was shocking to see hospital staff so openly flouting the rules. It was about an hour before she was treated, and as we walked out the same employee was there again having another fag break on hospital grounds. To me that's gross misconduct. Why do managers tolerate it? Because they can get away with being lazy and they are worried that if the reforms go through they might actually have to perform.
The opposition of the health service unions to the reforms is nothing more than a turkey/Christmas issue.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not a good simile buckland and the n.h.s.
only been there for blood tests and they seem to be staffed by the people that time forgot, no offence to the ones that do measure up.
the same applies to the royal victoria in folkestone.
I hope that Kathryns leg is healing OK Peter , Howard you are very bad !
Keith Sansum1
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PETER;
The NHS AS howard saysis far bigger than the buckland hospital
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Keith it's one small symptom of one huge problem.
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#25 - absolutely!
Brian Dixon
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peter,i dont know if you notised but there is a rubbish bin outside the main entrance with a ash tray [a well used one] in the top of it.but as you said the person smoking could have more discreate.
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Brian, the whole site is a non smoking area. The questions I have are:
1. Why was he smoking in a non smoking area?
2. Why was he smoking in his clinical uniform?
3. How can he possibly be allowed fag breaks an hour apart?
4. Surely this means that management at the hospital are asleep at the wheel?
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Brian Dixon
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peter,as i pointed out i dont condone it,but saying that peiple who smoke working in other areas of the work places [supermarkets,cafes/restraunts,bars etc] who have uniforms do the same practice with managents knowlage.
This is a hospital, he clearly had too much time on his hands, the management must have seen this, and there are no excuses.
Keith Sansum1
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I don';t have the full facts as to why this chap was outside the hospital
and so won't comment on this.
The bigger picture of course is the one that we should concentrate on, and we are saying the reforms will solve all this? I'm not convinced
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He was outside because he wanted a fag break on your tax money.
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we dont have the full facts
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Perhaps he was an actor, paid to stand there and smoke, just to discredit the NHS EKHUFT. Just the sort of thing the Tories on here would conspire to do........

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#37, if I ever get stopped for speeding I shall protest to the policeman that he should not have stopped me without having the full facts.
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