Planning Application
- Keith Sansum1
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17 February 2023 21:33380282Probably fall through last hurdleALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 19 February 2023 07:42380304https://publicaccess.dover.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=ROH6LPFZK7C00&activeTab=summary&fbclid=IwAR3PvISwb37CRcWdm5jnNol1o1BGYb9EhVPg9nhUcmcbJF1at9pi0cFauBk
Here is another attempt for replacing the church hall at Aycliffe. The last one was rejected due to so many objections
We already have one respite flats about 100 yards down road. Also no one knows who will be going in these little studio flats, no 24/7 supervision. We did ask DDC to purchase the land for a community hall but they did not. The council said it would not be used that much..
The person who brought the land is a one man band from a flat in Snargate street who has change the company through various disguises
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11748054/filing-history
Sea Coast homes Ltd
Everyone objects except for the Dover Society who do not even live up here…Guest 2547 likes this - 19 February 2023 08:04380307Friens in the local party perhaps? Like the Farthingloe fiasco?Gary39 likes this
- Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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20 February 2023 07:10380317What are you suggesting Ray lolALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 20 February 2023 08:11380319Keith Sansum1 wrote:What are you suggesting Ray lol
Not just a suggestion, Keith. The facts are all out in the public domain. The register of members' interest for our previous MP and the company statements for China Gateway International both make for interesting reading. And DDC were never prepared to explain why they blew £300,000 of taxpayer's dosh challenging a legal judgment on behalf of a bunch of cheapskate developers.
One would like to think that things have changed but, after my delvings into the Farthingloe case, you'll forgive me if I remain sceptical! - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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20 February 2023 17:12380325Should the council have just let the application through??ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 20 February 2023 21:25380327Keith Sansum1 wrote:Should the council have just let the application through??
They should have rejected it outright given the totally inappropriate location for a development of that size. Their own planning officers recommended a reduction in the number of properties but the developers, knowing they had DDC support, started to bleat that the diminished size would be unprofitable. Strong local opposition supported by the CPRE which 'groper' Elphicke took great delight in publicly vilifying. Finally Supreme Court judgment went against DDC with certain councillors being mentioned by name as failing to do their job properly. Mercifully, for the time being at least, the whole wretched project has been omitted from the local plan. - Captain Haddock
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20 February 2023 21:36380328And yet (and I wasn't on planning though I was on the council at that time)
IF you were to build a development in Dover would it make more sense building between a railway station and the A20/M20 with fairly easy access to what's left of the town center OR build at Whitfield?"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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21 February 2023 07:14380330Let me tell you how planning has worked..........
A planning application came in
To change a drug den into a residential home, the chief officer put in his report to Decline the application .
He also stated it would never go through all time he was in post.
(Not his decision)
I spoke at the meeting and got the cllrs to agree to meet at the site so that locals and others can form a view, more importantly the councillors can see the area for themselves .
At the site I used exactly the same arguments as to why it should be approved, at the end of all the di s discussion the chairman of planning asked the chief officer how he could approve it .
The officer then told him how.
This to some would be nothing short of corruption .
But the application went through !!!!!ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 21 February 2023 08:02380332Captain Haddock wrote:And yet (and I wasn't on planning though I was on the council at that time)
IF you were to build a development in Dover would it make more sense building between a railway station and the A20/M20 with fairly easy access to what's left of the town center OR build at Whitfield?
Which part of Whitfield is designated an area of outstanding natural beauty? Have you ever tried to turn on to the B2011 from existing residential areas (Maxton, Elms Vale etc) at peak times? You really should re-read all the objections before posting this sort of guff. - Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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21 February 2023 08:17380333Captain Haddock wrote:IF you were to build a development in Dover would it make more sense building between a railway station and the A20/M20 with fairly easy access to what's left of the town center OR build at Whitfield?
Fair question in my opinion. If one were to build another development in Dover, I know which loss of countryside I should regret the more - Whitfield. How Farthingloe could come to be considered and designated as an area of outstanding natural beauty is beyond me.(Not my real name.) - 21 February 2023 09:07380334
- 21 February 2023 11:21380337Button wrote:Fair question in my opinion. If one were to build another development in Dover, I know which loss of countryside I should regret the more - Whitfield. How Farthingloe could come to be considered and designated as an area of outstanding natural beauty is beyond me.
The criteria for designation as an AONB are quite stringent. Ironically (in the light of this particular planning issue), such a move requires the prior approval of the local authority.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. Thank God you don't work for Natural England though. - 21 February 2023 13:25380338What a hideous, ugly design of a building.......
No wonder Keith Sansum has moved to Hythe
Ross Miller likes this - 4 March 2023 17:26380482I don't think the land where the gasometer is has been closed for 80 years? I'm sure I remember the gasometer being in use in my lifetime (being well under 80).
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/buyer-will-be-sought-for-former-historical-gasworks-site-283142/The Gov likes this - 4 March 2023 17:57380484Karlos wrote:I don't think the land where the gasometer is has been closed for 80 years? I'm sure I remember the gasometer being in use in my lifetime (being well under 80).
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/buyer-will-be-sought-for-former-historical-gasworks-site-283142/
It's been in use this century, for example an aerial view c2002
- 5 March 2023 08:00380486True I have seen it working right up to the 1980s
I also have a mate that worked for gas company there
And I have done work on them in the pass.
- 5 March 2023 08:20380487It seems the new planning application at Aycliffe.. every resident objects. The two organisations supporting it are Dover Town Council…and the Dover Society who none live on the estate.. I E-mailed the Dover Society but they do not have the decency to reply.. Be interesting what our local DTC and DDC councillors think..
- 5 March 2023 13:35380488Gary
I thought the Ex mayor Chris P was on the DTC and lives up Aycliffe ? - 5 March 2023 14:31380489
