Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, yes, you did mention that about three times, but I did not state that smoking is not harmful.
Try reading my post properly: I simply do not believe that traffic pollution has never accounted for one illness or one death.
Yet according to governments, traffic pollution has never harmed anyone.
There is no mention in my post of "putting all the blame on someone else".
Simply, those who campaign against smoking usually drive to the conference centre to deliver their speech against smoking, spouting their chemical pollution into babies' lungs sitting in their prams exactly at the worst pollution level of the street (see level of exhaust pipe from road), and then hop in their car and drive back again through the streets and do the same all over again.
They have hypocrisy written all over them.
I suppose now you will sound off again about "putting all the blame on others". Are YOU in denial. Keith?
Keith Sansum1
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#62
alexander
as i said smoking and other ways such as cars do cause health problems
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#63
Roger, do you really believe that State propaganda about truck pollution not being dangerous?
I feel really sorry for you there, Roger.
I certainly won't accept such nonsense as an answer
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#64
I wasn't saying I believed it Alexander - no one at the meeting believed him.
Roger
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#65
Then it's about time, Keith, that all cobbled together governments in the world campaigned to warn people about the very big dangers of traffic pollution, and released figures on how many illnesses and deaths are caused through inhaling traffic exhausts.
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#66
Well good on you, Roger.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#67
Whils i understand where your coming from how do feel this problem can be overcome?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#68
Alex if you think traffic pollution in Dover is bad I can highly recommend a week's city break in Cairo. In certain weather conditions the exhaust fumes form a stationary cloud rising ten storeys high and with fifty metres visibility. If you blow your nose the contents of your handkerchief are black.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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#69
Firstly, Keith, I don't smoke in the same room as non-smokers.
Secondly, I go on foot, or, if long distance, with public transport.
While it is clear that hundreds of millions of car-drivers in the world would consider it unacceptable to give up driving, however, it is unacceptable for governments world-wide to simply pass on all effects of cancer, premature deaths, heart-diseases and more..., to SMOKING and PASSIVE smoking.
I can remember the days when on York Street, on a sunny day, you could see the smog around the Town Hall.
Since then they took lead out of petrol, so one doesn't see the smog from such a short distance.
Yet there are still many invisible chemicals in petrol that you don't see, but they are very harmful.
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#70
Right you are, Peter. Now try Mexico City
They said 30 years ago that 5 minutes walking there was like smoking 20 packets of fags!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#71
and the answer is alexander?????????
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#72
The answer, or at least my project for the future, Keith, is to enhance public transport running on electricity.
It's part of my Dover project.
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#73
The mind boggles
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#74
Bring back the trams.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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#75
Electric buses should be the ideal solution. That is what Dover needs.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#76
so in 500/1,000 years might be ok then probably not even then
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#77
bendy busses are better.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#78
Has india got a similar exhaust from cars/motor bikes?
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Yes, Keith, children inhale exhaust fumes in India as much as they do in Britain.
Try Peking, they've got a big smog problem there.
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#80
This latest report concerning the rate of childhood asthma admissions is one big lie.
The really hilarious thing is that it was reported in the mainstream media by so called journalists.
Journalism today consists of this:
"We have produced a report by special people who know more than you and have letters after their names and know some even more important people who hold great sway and this is the result of our report".
To which the reply by the said journalist is:
"Thank you very much and do you have anything further to add?".
This is a dog whistle issue in the same way that the global warming scam is. Lazy journalism, cheap headlines and a voracious public eager to believe anything and everything the BBC and other outlets produce.
