howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 February 2011
18:3892409#21
don't think the country is broke, more a case of being under rich.
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12 February 2011
19:5192428#22
Brian you say in #19 that leaving the ECHR would be a bad move but do not give any reasons. What are your thoughts on the pros and cons of such a move?
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Brian Dixon
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12 February 2011
21:0492438#23
peter,easy.human rights yours mine and every one eles.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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12 February 2011
21:0492439#24
peter,easy.human rights yours mine and every one elses.
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12 February 2011
21:2392440#25
How about our rights to make our own laws?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 February 2011
21:3392444#26
i made this point earlier on, i believe that each country should have its own bill of rights based on the culture and history of each c ountry.
human rights are not a "one size fits all" issue.
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13 February 2011
00:5692460#27
Brian your response does not answer my question.
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13 February 2011
08:1792465#28
They never answer any question.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2011
10:5492471#29
peter/roger i have said all i am going to on the subject.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 February 2011
10:5892472#30
thanks for the clarification brian, all becomes clear now.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2011
15:2792498#31
howard,it will do.become clear that is.
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13 February 2011
15:3992505#32
Brian you are beginning to sound like Enigmatic Vic.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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13 February 2011
15:5692511#33
peter,long way to go yet before i get as bad as vic.
Keith Sansum1
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15 February 2011
14:1392734#34
i hope that the tories and governmentstick to there guns on this one
but not as an attack on the EU but more as opposition to this move
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 February 2011
16:0492746#35
it is not the european union that we have a problem with on this one keith, it is the european convention on human rights.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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15 February 2011
16:4492752#36
howard
fair comment
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15 February 2011
16:5392756#37
Article 65.1 of the Convention provides for signatory countries to leave upon six month notice, viz:
A High Contracting Party may denounce the present Convention only after the expiry of five years from the date of which it became a Party to it and after six months' notice contained in a notification addressed to the Secretary-General of the Council of Europe, who shall inform the other High Contracting Parties.
No problem then.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 February 2011
17:0992759#38
what is a "high contracting party" when it is at home?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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15 February 2011
17:1792760#39
howard,its called ukip/condems etc.
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15 February 2011
17:3492763#40
A high contracting party is a country which is a signatory to the Convention.
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