howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Almost speechless......!!!!!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Their restaurant must be run very inefficiently. I could produce any of the dishes on that menu at their prices and make 75% GP. On sales of £1.36m that's a million quid to pay the staff and the laundry bills etc etc.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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While searching for a recent peon of praise from the Guardian I came across this...
Norman St John-Stevas dies at 82
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10127915Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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No vegetarian option on the menu in the Mail.
Who is it that lands the Sole? Do they know that they keep our democracy going?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I am not 100% certain of this Peter but I think that the catering is one of Brown's atrociously expensive PFI initiatives. It is certainly the case in some government departments including the Treasury.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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This is a disgrace! Scrap the house of lords immediately!
It is a dinosaur institution of over-fed and over-bloated benefit scroungers dressed up like clowns!
That's MacDonalds, Alexander. Close, but no cigar..........
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL Bern.
We have had this conversation Alexander. You need to learn more about our history and the essential role the HoL plays in our constitution and its role in protecting our freedoms.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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an elected house of lords would have the same powers as our present one.
not sure about protecting freedoms, lord archer lost his.
DT1- Location: Dover
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History is important to inform future decisions, not create a template for replication.
I think we should worry about placing too much faith in the unelected. I know people will say that the HoL is part of our democracy and constitution, but I think that's only if those people define what democracy is and what you want our undefined constitution to be.
Of course taking this deconstructionist approach, you ultimately make the two concepts meaningless.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The house of lords represents that part of British history that saw the great rip off:
during the period of the British Empire, from its foundations in the 17th century, the establishment of the lords was the representative part of British society that lorded it over the masses and took the greater share of wealth.
Press-ganging young men onto warships and sending them off to slave-labour. To be hanged if they dared escape.
The signing over of mineral mines in Canada, Australia, South Africa and elsewhere to the rich families of high society Britain.
The horrors of the Industrial Revolution: working 14 hours a day in slave-labour conditions, with women and children falling asleep on the machines and sustaining awful, and often deadly, injuries.
Sending children as young as five into Britain's coal mines; then as young as seven, until the law on minimum age for child exploitation was slowly moved up the scale.
Deporting convicts to the Caribbean, America and Australia, into slave labour, where many of them died.
I know something of history, Barry.
Whatever happens in British history, the lords are always those who cash in, and the others are always those whom they lord it over.
But today they are becoming a reminiscent of the kind of person who represented the "British Captain" in the war fleet, whose men were slaves, often press-ganged and beaten, and who cashed in the "booty claim" for a prize ship of the enemy taken at sea, while the sailors contributed their spare pennies for the family of a dead comrade who fell from the masts onto deck.
But when many sailors died in one time, not many shillings were left to go round for their families.
The link shown in post 1 describes exactly that despicable mentality, a subsidised self-elected bunch of scrounging no-goods who despise the society of the working people and live off our backs, while complaining.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think they call them the conservatives nowadays alex, i may be wrong.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thank You Howard !
Roger
I have an idea ! Why dosnt every Lord who survived the trauma of having to eat subsidised food at the taxpayers expense , be issued with a medal in recognition of their brave self sacrifice. After all I can't think of more valid recipients . . . . . Or can I ?
Brian Dixon
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or evan a vocher for the nearist mcdonlds/buger king.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Alexander... do you really? A very warped view placing modern day values, attitudes and standards on a different age combined with your own prejudices and at best a half-understood knowledge of events.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The same Barry who was telling me to look at 400 years of history of the house of lords
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Alexander, try reading the link in #5 without preconceptions.