Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Jan.
Your right, all of them should be plugged.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 13 Red Herring...Isa,private oensions are not the core problem and will not be affected by any law change.
# 17 ..skating around the problem again...
# 20 Agree.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20 & 21 absolutely agree
Keith Sansum1
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post 20
have to give you my full support on this one
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Back to the real world - plugging 'loopholes' is easier said than done. It is like an arms race, a defensive measure is developed then counter measures are found and so it goes on. Even defining what is a loophole and what is a legitimate tax mitigation measure is not as easy as some might claim, you need only to look at the charity tax issue recently to see that.
Nobody, absolutely nobody, even the self-righteous posting on here will turn down an opportunity to save themselves tax.
The only way, as I have said, as Ross has said, is a flat simple tax system.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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let's get back to where we started
legal tax evasion or what ever other name is used
we need to look at how can we see a fairer system.
hitting the poor who struggle to find where the next meal comes from
while others earn(loose term) millions cannot be right
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Define 'fair' - there is a challenge for you.
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Gary Barlow also seems to be under the same scrutiny as Mr Carr. It seems that he is suitable to be 'Of the British Empire' yet his cash is not.
I'm not quite sure whether or not I am more irritated by his legal tax evasion or that a member of 'Take That' should get an OBE?
That being said he did write that really good song for the jubilee.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Of course we should not forget that higher tax rates will lead to the likes of Mr Carr and Mr Barlow leaving the country.
Seems like a win win situation to me.
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I see Jimmy Carr is back peddaling faster than Eugene Bolt goes forward. Whooosh!! there goes Jimmy! Realising now of course that his street credibility is shot into tiny holes, he has endeavoured to apologise profusely to the British Public and thrown himself on their mercy. It seems that he is making so much money that he was able to pay for his £8.5million pound house in CASH!!. Thats a few bob to have lying around. All made from his fans who pay over their hard earned already taxed cash when buying tickets to see him. So the fans have made their tax obligation, but the guy who takes their taxed money doesnt pay his. Not nice.
lol! DT re them moving abroad
...however in reality there is never a cats chance in hell of these guys moving abroad, not a chance, neither him nor Barlow, they are very much home grown with home grown earnings. Who'd have heard of 'em elsewhere. They aint going nowhere.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Surely the Sainsbury Wing of the National Gallery was paid for by monies got in the same way PaulB. Why not the Grocery Shoppers Wing?
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 27......``Define `fair`there is a challenge for you``
What a cop out ...why not try a graph...........
Every four year old knows what `fair` is.
Define `obtuse`there is a challenge for you....or mission impossible...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am frankly astonished that enough people thought mr carr funny enough to pay him the sort of money that encouraged him to use a tax loophole.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Jimmy Carr is extremely popular, all his shows are simply sold out almost before they go on sale!!
It seems that young people just can't get enough of him, it was in his interest to back down on this, no doubt he's taken advice, it may just have affected his future earnings and indeed ruined his street cred
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Would it be possible that Mr Carr would still be with K2,if he had not been found out ?
Question is how do `this`government get their hands on the other £ 7,000,000,000, for the nations deficit and do they have
the intent ?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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whether they be big business exercutives
footballers
comedians(loose term)
the same applies
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Another case of Cameron double standards.
He crucifies Carr but leaves Barlow to keep coining it in,perhaps because Carr has not donated to the conservative party and
Barlow campaigns for the tories.?
Both Flashman and Ollie tell the headlines Tax Avoidance is repugnant/immoral but they are not actively trying to stamp it
out.
The advisers to the Tax avoiders are far better organised than HMRC so something has to be done because the
Treasury/nation needs every penny and there is 7 Billion just sitting there for the plucking.
How many of our MP`s are tax avoiders ?
The Treasury are being out smarted by highly paid consultants and clever lawyers,the HMRC are struggling with 20,000
cases.
The UK needs to change the law says Sir Terry Leahy former CEO Tesco`s and he is putting pressure on the government to
produce a tax law that is ``FAIR``to all.He also attacks the thousands of UK non-doms lucrative tax allowances when
compared to the UK workers.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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cuts in hmrc staff mean that there are fewer civil servants left to take on the tax experts hired by the elite greedy folk.
the problem will get steadily worse unless they simplify the tax regime, mr carr takes the biscuit for me though.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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all nice words from cameron
but action very little
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