Not holier than thou
- Keith Sansum1
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21 July 2013 12:33238196im sure alexander doesn't go that far?ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Brian Dixon
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21 July 2013 15:00238202nah the one up dover castle,thats if they hold church services every sunday. - 21 July 2013 18:17238212st mary in castro is church of england, free admission to the castle if attending a service there.
- 21 July 2013 19:32238217According to some people that know me I'm a witch, does that qualify me for the Celtic church?
- 21 July 2013 20:13238226don't worry lesley wicca is now a respected religion and i have a witch living about 40 metres away - no problem.
i do wish she had not turned me into a frog though. - 22 July 2013 00:58238236I do share a lot in common with the Church of England, but the origins go back to King Ethelbert and Queen Bertha, not Henry VIII, hence I don't consider Mrs. Windsor the head of the English Church.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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22 July 2013 07:55238248is the church at dover castle church of England?ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 22 July 2013 08:41238255
- Keith Sansum1
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22 July 2013 09:10238263still unclearALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Jan Higgins
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22 July 2013 09:23238267The link says in big letters at the top Church of England, I also missed it at first.
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22 July 2013 09:26238268Jan
your again CORRECT
don't tell Alexander he has no time for the C of EALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 22 July 2013 12:38238285This is not true, Keith.
As posted above, I share a lot in common with the Church of England, and this includes the Light Tower Church of the Fair Lady.
My statement that Christ is the Leader of the English Church, and that it was founded by King Ethelbert and Queen Bertha of Kent, and conceived in the Spirit through conversion of the Kentish King to the Gospel, excludes queen Windsor from being the head of the English Church.
I have never despised the Church of England, but on the contrary have praised the C/E education received in St. Mary's school in Dover. Your statement above has more to do with political party box-ticking and you should correct this statement.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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22 July 2013 13:52238297And you have said you do not support those that head the church of england(your words)ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 22 July 2013 16:34238312Keith, my words have been quite clear, and once more I reiterate that the HEAD of the English Church is Christ.
All faithful members of a national Church are supposed to be as brothers and sisters. and different national Churches are supposed to be Sister-Churches equal in the Faith.
For you to understand, I will again state that I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MORTAL HEADS OF CHURCHES.
As for equal members of a Church, those who have knowledge of the Holy Scriptures are supposed to pass this knowledge on to others.
I have clearly praised on several occasions on various threads the teachers of the Christian Faith who have taught in the British schools where I have been.
If you are trying to force me into exchanging Christ for the queen as Head of the English Church, Keith, then you are wasting your time!
It's about time you accepted my view and stopped trying to change it!Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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22 July 2013 16:43238313The church at the castle believes the queen to be head of ChurchALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Jan Higgins
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22 July 2013 16:54238318Alexander wrote...."For you to understand, I will again state that I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MORTAL HEADS OF CHURCHES."
I quote from the Holy Celtic Church site "The Presiding Bishop is Dom Alistair Bate OSBA". Does that mean you do not even believe in the head of your own church?.
I don't think anyone is trying to change your view, I am just trying to understand where you are coming from and possibly broaden your rather narrow outlook.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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22 July 2013 17:00238319Oh flippen heck jan lol so was I lol
to clarify for alexander,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The Queen is the agreed Sovereign of the church, and supreme governor of the church of England.
Archbishops/bishops, are appointed by the head of the church(the queen)
they take an oath of allegiance to the queen
And CANT resign without royal authority!!!!
that explains it!!!
lolALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 23 July 2013 00:46238377Jan, firstly, I've never heard of the Church you refer to.
It is worth looking into, and I will do so one of these days this week.
Without any pre-knowledge of this Celtic Church you came across, I will however take a guess that their term "bishop" also means "bishop", and that does not necessarily mean "head".
Usually, if an ecclesiastic organisation refuses to use the word "father" when referring to priest or bishop, or any other ecclesiastic rank, then it specifically acknowledges only God The Father as "Father".
If they consider themselves all as "brothers and sisters in the Faith", then they specifically keep to the command given by Jesus at the Last Supper.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 23 July 2013 00:56238378Keith:
you wrote: "The Queen is the agreed Sovereign of the church"
This is false!
She maybe considered the agreed sovereign of the Church of England, but not of "the Church".
There are many Churches.
Again:
"Archbishops/bishops, are appointed by the head of the church(the queen)"
False!
You mean the Church of England, perhaps even the Anglican Church, but certainly not other Churches.
Finally, Keith, the Church at the Castle is SPECIFICALLY dedicated to the Virgin Mary, NOT to the queen.
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE QUEEN BEING THE VIRGIN MARY.
The queen is NOT the head of the Church I believe in!
I can enter this Church for worship and cannot be harassed in so doing, and I do so out of love for the Fair Lady.
As already stated, I share plenty in common with the Church of England, including the Light Tower Church.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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23 July 2013 06:13238382Keith asked "what do you belong to" and this was your answerAlexander D wrote:The original English Church, and the original Celtic Church.
This thread is now becoming as daft as some others I could name.
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