Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#1
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
Haven't seen the pier/harbour arm but I understand that have been opening bits and pieces as they have gone along and by all accounts is very impressive. Having Mr De Haan involved is always good news for Folkestone but surprised by the comments about now being the right time for the sea front development with all the predictions of economic gloom going around.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
#3
Harbour Arm is impressive, reopens today after the winter break with more facilities.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
#4
Significant South East Local Enterprise Partnership Growth Fund contribution of around £5m to push the project forward.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#5
Excellent plans for Folkestone. Population remains close to retail outlets and transport hubs with modern high density high quality housing. Shops/pubs/restaurants busy with large population in easy walking distance. Heavily reduced costs to provide electricity/gas/water due to density of housing.
Meanwhile on the green fields of Whitfield, each with parking for 1.6 vehicles ...................
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
#6
The above post about Whitfield ,he is talking rubbish
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#7
What is rubbish about post five.?Post six enlighten us please.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
#8
And that's more or less the proposal for the Wellington Dock, Western Dock area Bob together with the cargo move. Master planning soon to begin as you know.
As for housing in Shepway try the large development agreed for Folkestone Racecourse area & the recent purchase of greenfield sites with more to come.#
DDC have just agreed to pilot a brown field land register to identify & try to direct development into those sites. The only trouble is without subsidy housing won't happen & certainly not affordable/social.
Folkestone lucky to have a charitable Roger De Haan. As long as you follow Roger's Master Plan.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#9
You are right in saying that it all has to done his way or he will not put money into it,and must say I do not like all what he has done like the tin gun towers he as had put up for show. I with two mates from Cooks welded the Folkestone sign up on the end of the pier but needed to be bigger so you see in from the front.It would nice to see all the brown field sites with housing on them first before the green field ones. I still think there is going to be to many housing put up at Whitfield I said that when I was a member on the parish council up there.And there are just not the kind of jobs about in Dover for members of the public to buy them.Any way we are just off to a town we both like Deal the new flats along their front look nice with views of the sea. hope the shops get sold off below them.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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#10
Frank Skinner and Paul O'Grady rumoured to have bought new flats along Deal seafront. Interesting article on the town:
http://standardissuemagazine.com/voices/a-letter-to-my-hometown-a-new-deal/Jack of Hearts
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#11
Agreed Paul (mostly!).
The thing that throws me is that Dover has brand recognition that most Companies/Destinations etc would die for.
You ask almost anyone anywhere on the planet what they associate with Dover and they will all come up with something even if it's only Vera Lynne!
Landing of Caesar. Roman Painted House.Hell Fire Corner. White Cliffs. Castle. Drop Redoubt. etc. etc
You can hardly turn a corner in Dover without tripping over some bit of the last two thousands years history of this sceptered isle (plus where the International Flat Earth Society was based!).
It really should be a must see destination for anyone living in or visiting the UK.
Why we have not tied in with English Heritage/National Trust and based our marketing strategy and investment on History, History, History I really don't know.
Why the Hell is Dover not listed as a World Heritage Site? Have we ever applied?
With all due respect to the citizens of New Lanark (listed 2001) surely we've got more of a case than them?
BTW I hear on the grapevine that Stonehenge is hoping to get a Nandos to increase its footfall
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
Firstly I had not even heard of the Drop Redoubt and Painted House until I moved here, the latter needs smartening up and opening times clear before advertising it. Last year the website and the sign outside said different months and times!! In both cases all Spring and Summer they were closed on Mondays which wiped out 4 bank holidays. Probably the Old Town Gaol was around when I drove through to the docks like most other people.
Secondly forget English Heritage they are only interested in themselves, Mike Webb, Roger Walkden and others tried to forge links with them over the years with no success.
Finally Dr Andrew Richardson who was a Councillor at the time said on this very forum at least 10 years ago that an application was going in but the process normally took about 25 years.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#13
I have not been in the Painted House for a great number of years and to be completely honest have little desire to visit again. In recent years I have not read a positive post about what should be one of the most important historical sites in the area.
When compared with the successful Crabble Corn Mill, the Painted House seems to be dis-organised and badly run, it should be taken over by a better group.
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Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#14
Paul Watkins wrote:And that's more or less the proposal for the Wellington Dock, Western Dock area Bob together with the cargo move.
A cynic reading that comment (who me!) would read it that DHB are filling in the dock to move into real estate, with cargo as an afterthought.
Is that the real situation?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#15
Here we have this year's schedule for the RPH, complete mixture of days and times - not open on a Monday again and may or not be open on a Sunday. My understanding is that DDC offered many years ago to run it as a proper tourist attraction but the trust were not interested.
http://www.theromanpaintedhouse.co.uk/contact-us.htmlPaul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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#16
Ray, there are no proposals to Fill in the Wellington Dock . Why would they spend a fortune accessing it via a cut through to the new Marina otherwise. Just another ill informed story.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#17
All ready to many of them going round,all members of the public need do is go down and see for them self .
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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#18
Ray,
Don't forget the Wellington dock provides 160 berths for which Prices start £236.00 per metre (Annual berth). A nice little earner as Arthur Daley used to say.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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I referred generically to 'the dock' not specifically Wellington, which I am well aware is to be retained. The River Dour Partnership of which I am a committee member obviously have an interest in this, and through South East River Trust have been in discussion with DHB over flows through the modified Wellington Dock, which are important for fish migration.
My generic reference included Granville Dock (133 berths), the tidal marina (107 berths) and a considerable part of the operational area in the Western end - why else would they need (how many?) million tons of the Goodwins.
re the nice little earner, I do believe The Captain has mentioned he keeps his own boat in the Wellington Dock, which due to limited accessibility over the tide compared to Granville and the 24h tidal marina is the marine equivalent of 'the cheap seats'
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#20
Ray,
As you note I am indeed in the 'cheap seats' but have a horrible feeling that even so I shall soon be expected to dip into my pocket the help the Evil Empire in their expansion plans to provide me with much longed for new improved water and pontoon.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson