If they havnt chained it down and you have access to a van , you could

Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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The seats and barrel table should be against the pub wall. No seat should be that close to the road, you tip back and would be in the road, health and safety would not approve.
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DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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Although I have no desire to live in the Gateway, they are well designed. Double aspect, rarely seen in modern developments. Some of the detailing even on the garages is quite something. I can understand why anyone would live there Sarah, although do understand that some feel the mass is over powering.
I would be quite interested in what people would have rather have gone there? OK, so perhaps the same but not as tall...would that increase views? If you look at most of what went up in that period, the gateway flats are in a different league.
They are not designed like Communist blocks, but in the vague spirit of Modernism. It is true that Modernism also informed Communist architecture but that does not mean that all Modernist buildings are Communist! (Corbusier only liked rich clients) Visiting communist housing and flats you actually see lots of shops on the ground floor, so that well and truly excludes the Gateway.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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should health and safety not approve again this would get in the local press and guess who would come out smelling of roses?
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
Only gets in the press if a reporter reads the forum.
The Dover Mercury lifted one of my comments this week.

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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saw your pic jan in the mercury, yet another forum celebrity.
i think you will find that paul will be bending the ear of our local journos, that is his trade.
#20 made me chuckle.
The views from the gateway flats are lovely, especially the top floor - I tried to encourage my Mother to buy one last year but she wasn't playing! But as an outsider I have to say they block the town from the seafront and although I would live there in a heartbeat if I were on my own, as I don't, I feel able to say they are too tall and too wide!!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I would very much like to live in the Gateway. After all it's the only address around here from where you can't see.........the Gateway!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i would go with bern, the gateway flats are for living in not looking at.
who would not love to wake up in the morning or go to bed at night looking out at the sea and all the action that goes on there.
i consider myself fortunate that i can see the castle clearly day or night, especially at night when it is lit up.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
Surely before building this seven storey 'skyscraper' known as the Gateway, they should have at least thought about what the scale of buildings was in the area before.
A shame really that the seven storey Burlington Hotel didn't remain to maintain a sense of scale.
Ha!
I can only agree with Howard - I still annoy my kids by saying, every single time I walk or drive up my road with them "I can see the Castle from here"!!!! It is really unbelievable that I live so close to a real, magical, misty, proper, historical castle. I still pinch myself.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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this one is stuck around the side of the pub, they clearly thought it wasn't up to the standard of the ones on the pavement.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
thats the naughty boy corner howard,you know the ones that smoke and blow so called toxic fumes into non smokers faces.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
very dry brian, good to see you in town this morning.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and you howard.i hope you got what you was looking for at a good price.

Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
ps,sorry couldnt resist.
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,087
The National Trust has been busy with fauna- and flora-themed new seating on the path up to the cliffs:
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