Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#1
Been announced an application has gone in to drill to check for Methane Gas in the Tilmanstone area,
Some are concerned that this may(if agreed) lead to the controversial Fracking going on in other parts of country, and of course if that's the case the demonstration costs etc
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#2
Its a great idea, fuel costs will come down and jobs will be created.
Few people thought coal mines and slag heaps aesthetic, this is about jobs and the economy
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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#3
David, do you really think fuel costs will come down, I had you credited with more sense than that!! Nor is it about "jobs", it's about profit.
They don't need to drill for methane, anyone who lives near the old slag heaps will tell you that in years gone by methane gas fires could be seen glowing on the heaps.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#4
Lesley, fracking in the US has seen fuel costs drop.
And Lesley you can't have profit without sales and you won't get sales without jobs.
Bring it on I say.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#5
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/417913/Nowheresville-USA-gets-rich-quick-from-fracking-but-at-what-cost
Lesley, perhaps Elvington could become our Nowheresville? Admittedly about 25 years too late since the pit shut.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#6
Good
Lets stick a big gas powered, PowerStation on top of Tilmanstone producing cheap electricity
No need for the planed solar farm the size of 14 football pitch that they are going to build on this site at Tilmanstone,That will produce expensive electricity
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#7
UCG(underground-coal-gasification) has been around for many years. The Russians have been powering their street lights with it for donkeys years. It is being perfected here on a small scale and in Australia, Asia on a massive scale, they are calling it Business Gas over there.
With our coal seams being the thickest and most abundant at the coast, around the St Margaret's area, that is where I believe any power plant would be sited.
Or, as our coal goes under the channel and into France, there is a possibility for UCG at sea.
Watty will say I am scaremongering with St Margaret's but those are the facts.
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#8
Keith.
It would be less than useless at Tilmanstone,
The majority of coal has already been won from that area.
There are other seams of coal in the area, many thinner ones, but why would anyone build a power plant on an area that has had most of its coal removed?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#9
david
even the p.m. has said that fracking is unlikely to bring fuel costs down, different in the u.s. i don't know why.
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#10
Howard "even the PM".
Cameron loves wind farms, they are next to useless and a waste of money. My default setting is that if Cameron says its a good idea its not.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
as far as i know he is in favour of fracking, doubtless he sees it as another chance to levy a "green" tax on it.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#12
gary
As you know Gary, pipes can carry gas from wells, the old pits are brown site
1500 seem 6 seem and 7 seem still have big reserves , not forgetting all the smaller seems in-between
Wells can go out a long way from the power plant;
You make it simplistic to say the plant must not sit directly over the old pit site
Why destroy farmland for a power plant when we have old unused industrial sits sitting empty
Ps . the old workings will be full of gas ready for the picking
Showdown site has been empty for years, making taxpayers funded cash for the landed gentry that owns the mineral rights
National f,,, disgrace That this scum can rob the taxpayers for so long
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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#13
David Little wrote:Its a great idea, fuel costs will come down and jobs will be created.
Few people thought coal mines and slag heaps aesthetic, this is about jobs and the economy
Not one for pasting links but I remember Aberfan, as do many others, so slag heaps,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsxVo26AoU‎
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#14
There are currently 3 applications in -
Between the A2 and Westcourt Farm near Shepherdswell
Timanstone
Guston Court Farm
Comments can be submitted on the KCC website, but I suppose that's not as much fun as arguing the rights and wrongs on here
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#15
Why mention Aberfan Bob?
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#16
I think bob is trying to say
Aberfan was negligence, bit like conservative and labour party lack of affordable energy policy
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#17
Aberfan was an unimaginable tragedy, I've no idea why Bob would mention it re fracking
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#18
Keith.
Tilmanstone is not an unused industrial site and is not sitting empty.
Regarding Snowdown you are right that it has been empty for years and something should be done with it but there are reasons for that.
However, you are very wrong to refer to the landowner as scum. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and simply listening to other's who did not have a clue on how to negotiate with him, in a civilized way.
The truth is that the landowner, as the manager of his family trust, is doing nothing more than anyone else would do, in his position, you included.
When our steam train is running around the curve at Tilmanstone, with our passengers viewing its historic spoil tip, on its way to Wingham, then off to our other colliery sites, this corner of Kent and its communities, will be reaping the benefits that our Mining Railway Heritage will bring to this area.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#19
David possibly because you happened to mention slagheaps in post #2
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#20
Yes Jan, I mentioned that they weren't aesthetic.
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