howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
we thought the sunday extensions were for the olympics but not so.
this from the telegraph back in march.
the Chancellor's speech on Wednesday will outline moves to lift restrictions on Sunday opening hours for two months this summer, with plans for a permanent relaxation if the policy is considered a success.
The Budget is also expected to signal the end of the 50p income tax rate and unveil a clutch of other business-friendly moves, including new loans for young entrepreneurs and a further cut in corporation tax.
The emphasis on boosting enterprise was detailed as Liam Fox, the former defence secretary, called for the Budget to be used to launch an attack on what he said was a "corrosive anti-business culture" in a Sunday Telegraph article. He called for an end to the 50p rate.
The eight-week suspension of Sunday trading restrictions, which will begin on July 22 and is designed to coincide with the Olympics, threatens to put the Chancellor on a collision course with trade unions, small businesses, the Church and other family-friendly groups who have campaigned to "keep Sunday special".
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#2
it was always a trial with the failed prime minister view to open the floodgates to open all day on sunday
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Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
- Posts: 573
#3
What is wrong with all day opening Keith if it creates more jobs. Pubs open all day Sunday, police work, taxis, ferries, my Wife is working at the hospital all day.
When you was a PCSO did you not work all day?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#4
well said dave1.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
where will the money come from to pay the extra wages of shop staff?
most people have a set amount to spend each week/month.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#6
if its a choice thing fair enough
but for most staff it will be
sorry its part of your contract take it or leave it
and we wont pay you any extra
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#7
kieth,it's all about rostas,which are discussed at the interview,its all so explaned at the interview how these rostas work.then its down to the person being interviewed to accept those rostas,no arm twisting during the process.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
if this practice is adopted on a permanent basis, costs to supermarkets of wages, heating and lighting will rise.
can only result in higher prices.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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#9
Why Howard? many supermarkets are open 24 hours now, admittedly not 7 days per week, nobody appears to complain about that.
To get out of this mess we need to create jobs so the economy can grow, the old 9-5 has long gone, and as Brian said when I took staff on they were paid a good rate of pay but had to work Sundays on a rota basis, it formed part of their conditions of employment.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#10
if you took the job on whn the company wasnt doing sundays then change you are then forced to work sundays
get in the real world boys
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#11
I think Dave1 is right, that if we want to create more employment, we have to try different things; if more people were more flexible, less dogmatic, we wouldn't have so many unemployed.
If more people are working, there'll be more money in their pockets to spend and so it goes on - getting better and better. If they're not working, there'll be less in their pockets.
We can't wrap people up in cotton-wool, but they do need (employment) protection.
We don't live in an ideal world, this is the real one.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#12
Double standards are often applied in this area. Try running a pub and not being open every minute of every day when customers want a drink. If only people worried about pub staff in the same way as they do about supermarket staff.
The overwhelming majority of supermarket staff are part-timers. Increasing opening hours in the long term will lead to more part time jobs, although in the short term some who don't usually work Sundays may have to do so. I don't see that as exploitation, there has to be flexibility on both sides.
The real world, Keith is this one: if a business is prevented from opening on Sundays by the refusal of staff to work Sunday shifts, while its competitors are not, that company will lose market share and its gross profitability will decline. That will inevitably mean fewer jobs in that business.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 699- Registered: 3 Jun 2010
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#13
perhaps that is where the corporate people went ------ to tesco ----- as they did not take their seats
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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#14
Keith, some of us do live in the real world. The days of the cloth cap and "management want to force us to work on Sunday, everybody out" are long gone. Those methods destroyed this country and will never return.
We need a more flexible workforce to survive, we need more of our young in work and if relaxing the laws on Sunday trading is the answer then so be it.
If it also means that some will not work Sundays then there is another supermarket or whatever down the road.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#15
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#16
each to there own howard.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#17
It's a 24/7 world now, if shops want to survive they need to keep up with what the internet can do....
Been nice knowing you :)
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#18
Possible chance for more jobs even if they are only part-time.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#19
can only result in increased prices though once the extra wages and ancillary costs are added up.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#20
19, no Howard, I believe the reverse is true. You don't get paid extra for Sundays unless you are in a unionised (public sector) job. More opening hours means more sales on the same fixed cost base. If shops find they aren't selling enough to cover the marginal costs they won't open.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson