Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
It gets worse .I have just returned from picking up a bag of litter around the bus terminus .Sweet wrappers ,bus tickets and cans .Filthy general public .
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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If there are none or few litter bins and recycling bins and no public-transport employee(s) dedicated to the task of general upkeep then already some foolhardy soul has set themselves up for disappointment leaving the matter of cleanliness to the public themselves.
It is just that I take it from what you say Sue that a public-spirited volunteer would not need any bag to collect fallen litter if it were only a step or two to the nearest bin.
I am sure schools do their bit to instil the anti-litter message, but is it too much to ask that bins be placed for the convenience of the public and not simply for the ease of the collecting teams?
There is a small plot of grass in front of where I live with two benches yet the litter bin is by one entrance only, where it is easy to get to for the truck and not where it would do most good, between the benches.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Good points well made.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
I agree Tom litter bins need to be in the correct place.
The litter is like a paper chase from Morrisons to the traffic lights at the bottom of Frith Road when the children are at school, it inevitably end up in the river or stuck in the surrounding plants. Morrisons have done their best with two bins outside the shop but there are none in the street.
Maybe the schools involved could remind the little dears not to drop the packaging on the pavement but I doubt it would do much good unless they were punished in some way.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
litter bin at the terminus .plus another a few yards away outside of the shop.Just filfty people
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
which terminus are we speaking about?
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
As DDC is responsible for enforcing the laws against littering, perhaps Sue or PaulW could, after asking their officers, inform us what measures are being taken to actually enforce the law, and how many people have been successfully prosecuted or given fixed penalty notices for littering in recent years. A couple of years ago I put that question to the chief executive but never received a reply.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
- Posts: 221
This is something that really annoys me. There is no excuse at all for dropping litter ever, litter bins or not. I don't know what the answer is though, most people seem completely oblivious to it, as Sue says just filthy people who don't care.
One thing that would help, and I've said this before, is if every resident and business kept the front of their property free of litter. It would only take a minute or so a day. Sadly it's never going to happen though.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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And smokers seem to think that their cigarette butts are, somehow, not litter.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard,the river bus terminus at minnis lane,i am presuming.
now now peter,rubbish bins full of paper rubbish not suitibale for fag butts wheather alight or stubbed out.the reason is obvious.
#9 is spot on. Filthy smokers. And if their obvious civic feelings make them shy of putting their butts in bins you can get portable ashtrays with lids for just that purpose. They can then be taken home and disposed of properly.
No, there are no excuses for individuals dropping litter, but there is also no excuse for local authorities avoiding their corporate responsibilities either. On the back of #7 could I also ask what education is offered in schools about the consequences of dropping litter? I know we brought ours up not to drop litter - they have many faults but litter isn't among them! Not all parents do so and LAs have some responsibilities in that area.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#10, if there's nowhere safe and hygienic and legal to dispose of your butts, DON'T SMOKE THERE.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
- Posts: 2,868
No.9 YES INDEED, anywhere where cars stop to park you find a pile of cigarette ends obviously emptied from a car.
Either don't smoke in a certain place, or, as many do, carry a portable ash tray with cover or tin with lid. Easy enough to do.
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Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
I have said this before on here.Some car passengers used to empty their ashtrays on the car deck of the ferries before driving off when I worked there.

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
one does that regularly down my road alec, filthy motorist.
Disgusting!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
There is a distinct lack of litter bins everywhere. They should be by bus-stops and other places where people accumulate. Some have been set alight, melted and the remains swept up but never replaced.
It's almost like the public are being punished because of a few litter-louts and idiots who drop litter and/or set the bins alight.
The bins never get replaced, so we have to suffer more litter blowing along the pavements and street and being caught up in trees and shrubs. We need more bins not less and maybe made of less combustible material, but also cheap to make.
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
As with the 'improvement' to garden waste collection could the fast-food shops and other businesses whose merchandise contributes to the litter not be 'encouraged' to sponsor bins...maybe with their own business name on them?
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
They could Tom.....................
Roger
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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