Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
I agree that the community service/payback punishments for low level criminals are much more effective when properly applied and enforced, especially for low level crimes/criminals
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I'm particularly worried about gun and knife crime, London seems to be haunted by it.
May-be the Police should have more constables and officers to patrol the streets, day and night, and we should show a no-tollerence approach to knife and gun carriers.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Daily Mirror reports today that Crime-busting specialist units set up to tackle teenage gangs are being squeezed by Justice Secretary Ken Clarke.
The Government has slashed funding for youth offending teams by 16% - making 1,928 workers redundant. Youth teams help cut anti-social behaviour and teen violence by bringing together police, probation officers and youth crime experts. One team smashed a London gang who killed Kodjo Yenga, 16, in 2008.
Figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act reveal 94 of the 156 teams in England will lose funds.
Shadow justice minister Andy Slaughter said: "Labour's strategy brought down offending and the number of kids in jail the right way. "It identified potential troublemakers, intervened early and ensured they didn't turn to crime. That's why there was a 40% cut in kids turning to crime over the last Parliament.
Simon Reed, of the Police Federation, added: "Despite their success, they are another victim of budget cuts."
I, personally, think that tackling youth crime and juvenile delinquents is so important if society is to break the chain and move forward. 'Old lags' have in most cases have chosen or been forced into crime by dint of their upbringing,peer pressure or career choice. Trying to get them to change their ways is difficult if near impossible however if the youth of today are more impressionable and if offered equal opportunities in education,better career prospects and a drive to eliminate child poverty in the UK,especially inner city areas then society stands some chance of reducing crime.
These cuts demonstrate that this government is unwilling to invest in the future and is more interested in cuts in spending rather than cutting crime.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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If prison was the kind of place you really don't want to go back to, that might deter a few offenders, but it isn't.
I'm sure there are many people who are institutionalised, who don't have much of a proper education, find it difficult to get a job and so treat it as "home"; they are accommodated, fed, looked after, any treatment they need, they're given, don't have to worry where their next meal is coming from, have no concerns about heating bills etc etc. so prison is a good option for many of them.
I must be honest I am not the sort of person who would treat these criminals with kid gloves, but would make prisons less corrupt but harder, make them work for their "accommodation" and all that involves, but also provide real-world vocational courses in prison so they can turn their hand - where appropriate, to something useful and honest.
There is a very small percentage of people who go straight after prison, so it really does need a lot of serious thought, not softly softly woolly-headed stuff.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Roger
Prison is punishment. Loss of freedom,the right to decide how one spends one day. Cut off from society and your family. The prisons to which I assume you refer as cushy or soft are more likely to be open establishments where inmates are finishing off long sentences and have earned a place there through good behaviour etc or are for non - violent crimbos or those that shouldn't be inside in the first place.
Prison is not a soft option its an easy one! Look em up throw away the key and forget about them mentality which does both society and itself a dis-service.
Ken Clarke by cutting these special units is surrendering and basically saying there is ho hope for the youth of today who will inevitably become the cons of tomorrow. He is cutting in future investment and prevention and putting a small elastoplast over a gaping wound.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
oi barryw/ross theres nothing wrong with the mirror,but agree about the other papers.
barryw,as a footnote the daily mirror dosent excist any more but revamped as the mirror.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,247
Ross - you place to much reliance on academic studies. Over the last 50 years we have seen how academic studies and theories have shifted our society and it is not a pretty picture. The education system has been wrecked by academics with their daft educational theories that have left a generation leaving school unable to read for one thing. These academics have caused the same kind of damage to the justice system as well. Academics are the guilty parties who have created the mess we are in. I prefer common sense and experience to academics. We need to ditch their theories and get back to some basic discipline in schools and outside some real punishment being handed out by the courts Yes, I am proud to say that I am indeed a 'hang 'em and flog 'em' traditional Tory because that is what we need.
Brian - if you prefer a comic to a newspaper that is your right.