Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#1
The Labour Party HQ and Local Party and Gwyn said ``Our rigorous selection process has proved her to be the right person
for the job``rigorous for women.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#2
Clair is not only a lovely lady and locally born and bred,although I disagree with all Women or in that case all men shortlists,she I believe would have won no matter who was put forward.
She is a bright hard working lady and promises to be good next M.P
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
claire will certainly have her work cut out to gain local support considering the method of selection.
good that she is now working locally so she might get known that way.
charlie worked extensively for about 2 years before the last election making sure he got known.
every village fete, bring and buy sale etc was visited by him.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#4
I too, was not comfortable with the all one sex selection process but Clair is a good choice for Dover/Deal, Clair has been heavily in involved in many community issues and she is a local, which I think makes a big difference.
I also think JHG is right, she would have been chosen anyway.
Well done to Clair.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#5
It is clear that the general feedback tells us that people dont like the all women shortlists...but nevertheless now that it is all done and dusted re the selection process, it will be very interesting to meet Clair in the course of her travels. And as the guys said there above, she would probably have been selected anyway.
Labour were always very good communicating with us and we welcome that...we look forward to press releases and info coming through in the future and wish her well.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#6
With 'transparency' what is there to see? Is the election of the New Labour candidate a done deal? Just what are the figures for the, "constituency wide election"?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#7
Paul would have had plenty to talk about with one of the other candidates if selected
(at least I'm assuming this is her, different spelling of her name on the press release!)
http://www.francesrehal.org.uk/?page_id=10Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#8
Had a chuckle at Prosser being described as a legend on the front page.
To me a legend is Gary Sobers or Bobby Moore.
Perhaps Paul is being ironic
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#9
Just to go back to Rays post there about Frances Rehal. Yes I was gobsmacked and amazed to hear that we had a contender all the way from Galway and from Loughrea too..we would have had a lot to talk about. My family was from both Balinasloe ( Galway ) and from Loughrea ( Galway ) to some extent..so I was amazed.
My Uncle Tom was from Loughrea and fought with the British Army in North Africa I believe, and certainly up through Italy. He must have been mad, or mad for adventure, being Irish he didnt need to, but he volunteered. He never talked much about it even though I used to ask him constantly as a boy.
"Were you ever shot" sez I
"Did you ever shoot any Germans" sez I with greater depth..you know ..that kind of thing.
No he was never shot but had the heel of his boot shot off in Italy when a machine gun opened up on them and they all dived for cover. He told me it wasnt like the movies, you never fired out from a window for example. You wouldnt last a second at a window..something to do with the concentration of firepower coming back.
Well there we are. Was never actually in Loughrea myself although have seen many pictures of it.
Good luck to Frances MBE no matter what she does in future. She certainly gave me something to reflect on. Thanks for the link Ray.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
interesting c.v. at first glance i thought it was a photo copy of the "guardian" jobs page, only diversity officer missing from it.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#12
Of course Gwyn is a legend David.. a local legend. 3 Labour victories in a row... hard to do.
But yes back to the CV. Very impressive CV there and I bet the other ones were for the other two nominees as well. Gwyn I suppose represents the past in how these things used to be achieved...as I understand it Gwyn worked on the ferries locally and worked his way up from local politics to candidate level and of course eventually MP. But it was a different era then.
That kind of thing is not really happening any more. It is now all about the 'bright young things' slotting in as soon as possible to frontbench level. I speak for example of the wave of new bright faces on the Labour frontbenches..all highly educated, all very experienced already, and all very media savvy from the word go....Chukka Umunna, Chris Leslie, Rachel Reeves to name but a trio who are all so new, yet already familiar on our TV screeens.
No local councillors will upgrade to MP level in future, I cant see it, by the time you go through the local political machinations your career bolt has already been shot. It takes too long. Youth is the thing. Education is the thing. Its not just me getting older is it... but MPs and cabinet members are Im sure getting ever younger..
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#13
Probably another gold plated pensions-up public sector over paid, Europhile
But if she's not, that would be a welcomed breath of fresh air. Time will tell
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Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#14
Good luck to Clair, I wish her all the best. It will be very interesting to meet her in the not to distant future. I'm sure Gwyn will be a great help to her along the way
That is a very impressive biography indeed of Frances Rehal MBE, I wish her all the best in the future.
Well I never! what are the odds PaulB, Frances Rehal coming from Galway/Loughrea, it is indeed a very small world at times. Gawd! I even remember your Uncle Tom's story re heel of his boot
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#15
thanks to the reds for keeping us informed, hopefully clair will find time to keep us informed of her plans and outlook on the big issues facing dover and deal.
Keith Sansum1
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#16
well now lets muddy the waters a bit more lol;
You will all know Over the past 20 years or so iv been a great supporter/member of the labour party, i left approx 3 years ago, one of the reasons being the woman only shortlist.
for my part i sent a letter to ed milliband and the local party on my strong views and how it will destroy labours chances of taking out charlie boy, and ed getting into number 10.
approx 2 years ago i sent a letter to the local party and never got a reply,
and so this time i sent one also to ed.
i recieved a reply from katherin buckingham the labour parties national compliance officer, where she stated;
thankyou for your letter to ed ragarding all womens shortlists i am responding on his behalf.
the national executive committee of the labour party is resonsible for deciding which places will select candidates via an all women shortlists. They do this after regional consultation with the local party.
On this occasion the N.E.C. decided that all women shortlist would be used to select the parliamentary candidate in dover and deal, you may know that the local party selected a candidate in the last week.
so you can see the labour party is to push ahead with an imposed candidate
and let me be clear, theres no one more than me that wants rid of this present govt.
but, for john or a few others to say this lady would have been selected whether it was an all women shortlist or not, sadly we will never know.
and if the labour party were that confident then why have the women only shortlist in dover if they felt they would win anyway?
i think labour has shot itself in the foot
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#17
Labour shot itself in the foot when it turned on it core working class indigenes voters,
And with out its union cash it would be a gone forever party.
Treason is long remembered
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#18
The Labour Party haven't been great supporters of the working (class) people for many years Keith(B).
Remember the 75p a week pension rise a few years ago and the 10p income tax fiasco ?
They want their (your ?) vote, but very little policies really support them. The trouble is that the Conservatives (and I'm a Conservative Councillor) don't either.
I know there are genuine hardships amongst a great number of low-paid people, where the Working Tax Credits and Housing Benefits have been taken away - and it isn't because their salaries have gone up beyond the normal income limits.
People shpouldn't have to pay income tax on incomes below £12,000.
There are many platitudes made about stopping benefit cheats, but there is no robust attitude or approach to it; we read in the papers every day about so and so family living of £50,000 a year benefits because they have 10 kids: why should we pay for people to have 10 children ? two, maybe three at the most, but not ten.
I could make a lot longer posting, but that will do for now.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not many will disagree with those sentiments, the recent records of the big two show that working people at the bottom end of the scale matter little, though the reds did bring in working tax credits.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20
Your comment above Howard that "the recent records of the big two, show that working people at the bottom end of the scale, matter little" may well be true but their vote is wanted - and people do remember.
Roger
