Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Yes, its true.
I have just seen some analysis on the Politicalbetting website that make worrying reading for Labour.
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Cameron's YouGov lead as "best PM" up from 8% a fortnight ago to 11%. He's 33% to Millminor's at 22%
Only 53% of LAB voters tell YouGov that Ed Miliband would make the best PM.
LAB might have a 45% voting intention share with YouGov but only 31% say they want a LAB majority government with 30% saying a CON one
One in four LAB voters according to today's YouGov poll DO NOT WANT a LAB majority government
These findings come from a poll which had Labour on 45% - 12% ahead of the Tories with the LDs down to 8%.
— Mike Smithson (@MSmithsonPB) September 6, 2012
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Yes we must always treat opinion polls with caution and there is a long time until the next general election but this is encouraging news for the Conservatives. It certainly shows that everything is to play for and is quite remarkable given the background we have.
It seems to me that people clearly remember who were the custodians of our economy for 13 years and whose mismanagement placed us in a position nearer to the financial problems of southern Europe rather than the financial strength of Germany and north Europe where we really belong.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I think what is probably happening here is the summer Olympics effect. Politics took a complete back seat to sport on an unprecedented scale. So political personalities were forgotten save for the incumbent political leaders who did well out of the Games. Cameron did well, had a benign and even pleasant presence on a number of Olympic high profile occasions...so the goodwill factor towards him increased. Boris Johnson also had a splendidly high profile period through the Olympics, so people's goodwill awareness of these two is hugely up.
On the contrary Labour had no role to play...and were airbrushed out of existence. But now that the political bruising is back in play it will be interesting to see how it all develops and how the polls shift.
I think Cameron is fairly well received by the public generally...but the real opposition will come from within his own party. In more recent years the Tories have been notoriously difficult to manage as a whole party. Cohesion soon goes no matter who the leader.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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That surprises me Paul, it seems to me Cameron is extremely unpopular, I don't know anyone of any persuasion that rates him.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The results of the last election confirmed this Barry; a party totally out of step with there core voters.
But they still see the conservative party, as the party of the rich, and big business
Some big changes needed to help the indigenise British working class,
The biggest floating voters, if you won't to get that majority.
They wont forget the betray of new labour, opening the borders and forcing down there wages.
But Remember the immigrant don't vote conservative, and there breeding like rats
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Immigrants don't vote in general elections unless they have been here long enough to have a British or Irish passport.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Having a British passport is an easy thing to get,
This is the problem.
A dog can be borne in a stable, but it doesn't make it a horse
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what comees around goes around, we had the reds split into factions all through the 70's and 80's leaving the blues with a fairly clear run.
the blues all under one banner, thatcher took care of that, kinnock then sussed it out and stamped down on the egotists paving the way for blair to breeze to power.
the blues then went into freefall for a decade, changing leaders for no particular reason. when dave got the leadership he decided to out blair blair and should really have got an outright majority.
now we have reds looking totally askew with the two eds far apart on how to take the party forward whilst the blues are more interested in who their next leader is.
very important as they need to align themselves with the winner before a change takes place.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I hope the British voting public do not forget Labour's past tenure and all the ills that they brought this Country.
Many floating voters have short memories though and will think of the present when it comes to voting day.
Some masterful PR will be necessary.
Roger
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It is hardly the case of the Blue Corner verses the Red Corner. Rather a league of two teams who kick the same balls around and change ends occasionally.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Agreed Tom. And to further the sporting analogy, they are all constantly bringing the game into disrepute, both on and off the pitch.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Roger, mere PR is not enough.
The Tories need a non-political ally to get Localism on track.
This could even fit in with the Tory version of Big Society, where we're all in it together!
Hence there's no need to be a member of a political party to be in it together.
And that is exactly where the Tory party should be looking, for an ally who isn't necessarily interested in politics, but has some common views with Government policy.
We just have to read Barry's version of how every person could become a billionaire to understand how the wrong sort of PR can be damaging to the Tory party
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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More fantasy interpretation of what is said on here from you Alexander, no wonder you come up with so many strange ideas with the way you simply do not grasp what is actually said.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 8.........no just the same old propaganda which after two long years is no longer working...........
# 9 and 10 ...agree but with one party we still have a slim chance of getting an Obama
type``we are all in this together``............Osborne`s effort was so one sided...........
Brian Dixon
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the trouble with the red,blue and yellow partys is,to much waffle,to much back tracking and full of bullcrap.would not trust any with the crown jewles let alone the country.and your right there is no allternative.
Keith Sansum1
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well roger
here i go with my howard likes prediction;
cameron is so unpopular in the country(i agree with david little for the first time)
and so rather than get rid of him prior to the next general election they will cling on to him then get rid of him when they lose.
the tories wontr get a majority, nor will labour and the lib dems will be lucky to hold onto any of there seats.
lib dems will be desperate(if any survive)to get power any way and will(or would like to)go in with any party.
of course they showed at the last general election they have no principles, so that will be interesting.
may well have to be a majority party running the country this time round
but won't be good for the country
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