Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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I hope when your time comes to be rescued from a blazing rooftop, you won't be too unhappy with your 5ft. 2ins, 7 stone Fireman as he hefts you over his shoulder. Horses for courses I say!
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Darren,
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
When it it comes to me being saved from a fire; I want Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub.
In much the same way that people of a certain generation want Dixon of Dock Green to be patrolling the streets.
I often remind my dad that it was only a TV program. Obviously I have not seen all of the episodes but I'm not sure PC Dixon dealt with the kinds of the problems we face today. Perhaps without telephones and radios, police officers could easily patrol the streets and deal with ALL the 'crime' they encounter.
Why should youngsters respect such people (as they rightly should) when older members of society (and the government) display such contempt for a phenomenally hard job and worry about superficial matters such as height.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
or dosh.
Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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Don't know that the Government worries about 'superficial' matters such as height, that was MY worry. Like I said, horses for courses. Confronted with a rampaging yob, I cannot see how a lone cop of medium stature is likely to make a scrap of difference even if armed with every electronic device available to him. I want the comfort of seeing a large (whether in one's or two's), visible presence walking my streets from time to time. You may well mock DT1 but actually I am not alone by a long chalk in this being on my wish list.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
Knowing lots of policemen, I can safely assure you that one of the most proficient officers I know for dealing with 'rampaging yobs' is little over 5'.
He is committed to his job, shares the values many of us hold on this forum (yourself included) and wants Dover to be a safer place. He is quite a character ...and quite short!
That's the sort of horse we need.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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going off at a slight tangent, i can remember when "big john" was patrolling the town centre not that long ago.
mild mannered as you could get but i don't remember seeing drunks and druggies so prominent as they are now.
i agree with the posts about the average officer wanting to do more but hamstrung by regulations, seen it in action many times when they take abuse and cannot give the abuser the same back.
Guest 937- Registered: 12 May 2013
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OK DT1 - please come in all shapes and sizes - but just BE THERE!!!
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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I wear a flat cap - hope to be taking delivery of a new ferret next week...even though the cost of ferret feed has trebled over the last 10 years. Its absolutely essential that I maintain the appearance of being working class so that industry can recover and thrive.
I know my place!
It's amazing how much the the population relies upon superficial perception to establish the reality of existence.
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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actually it is the coal in the bath that gives you away richard.
you had it easy though.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Sow, sow, quick, quick...
In the marble hall of science
equality's the thing
the least demand compliance
no more Philosophy is King
Lowest-common dominates
what's reasonable they flout
to they logic abominates
and so rationality is out
Our green and pleasant land
shall wilt and be no more
ruled by an outlaw band
compassion shown the door
Above all now Statistics
iron hand without a glove
bean-counters, as mystics
worship the abacus above
The criminal is growing
as the police do shrink
the Voter now kowtowing
has forgotten how to think
The future is unknown
the past is dead and gone
whatever seeds are sown
decree what harvest's won
[it was supposed to be humorous...but I forgot]
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Pauline
I think DT1 has answered your earlier question.
What we need is a mix of police on the beat, and Police in cars, and enough police to do the two jobs.
In the past police concentrated on reactive policing, and putting all resources in police In cars, in later years through public pressure police returned to the beat(but at a cost, longer waiting times for police to get to incidents)
The introduction of PCSO's was another of the face in the community, and goes some way to help with the image police on the beat, and bringing communities together.
Of course there needs to be a review of how police carry out there work, and the need for so many senior officers(at some cost)
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
and commissioners too, plenty of money at the top that needs to filter down to the front line.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think we should incorporate properly trained military personal not on active duty into our public services as we need them.
If we need more back up over problem times of the week , why not us the recourses we are already paying for
Could be a way of encouraging these people to slip in these jobs later on.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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6ft+ tall and wide and armed as well and going round in twos,all uk police officers should now be armed but well trained first.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,897
Why should our police be armed in places like Dover, it is not as if there are numerous situations when an armed officer is needed.
Sorry Vic but I really believe your last post is way over the top of what we need in the vast majority of places in the UK.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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the police federation has stated many times that their members do not want to be routinely armed and that many good officers would leave the service if this happened.
there are more than enough officers that have been trained in using guns and we have seen here in dover how quickly they can arrive on the scene when the situation demands/
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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You would be les likely to try to attack a police officer with a machete, if the officer was caring a gun and tayzer
This happened in London , that officer is dead because we never gave him the equipment to do his job
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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In the army now ,look what happen when they did not have the right equipment for the job,it went to court they won and now the W/D is going to have to get the right equipment for all.
