21 August 2010
14:1866498Get a life.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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21 August 2010
14:1966499I am adictive!
I have to listen to bagpipes and rolling drums, hobnailed boots marching, iron-shod!
One day, we should be having regiments of soldiers marching to work to the sound of bagpipes and drums and marching boots! national work-service: in the Army! Forwards march!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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21 August 2010
14:5066501Bern, I happened to see the other day a news item on yahoo regarding the sad tale of that old unfortunate chap, and it just coincided with this junkie thread currently running on here. With first hand info from nurses and patient`s up at Kings, it seems that the whole area there is infested with junkies, and I did experience for the first time in my life what some of them were like, especially the one who was squaring up to a black male nurse and calling him a f...in` black bast...! My comment`s on this subject were concerning the individual`s mentioned above rather than the whole, of which I have little knowledge of.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Ross Miller
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21 August 2010
18:3066545someone touched a nerve there eh Bern.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
21 August 2010
19:3866554Sorry chaps. I have strong feelings about respect and responsibilities, and have worked for years with people who could be called vulnerable, some of whom could also be called C**ts. I have no illusions. Some people in my close circle might even fall into those descriptions. I suppose that I am trying to say is no-one is immune and not one of us can take the moral high ground. A bit like all those eejits who condemn collaborators in WWII, or those who claim they would never have done what the nazis did. Frankly, I don't believe you - how do any of us know what we will do until that last button is pressed on our dashboard and all else has gone.
So spare me the moralising and the punitive jargon. Focus on what we need to achieve rather than what darstadly punishment we could mete out. If we genuinely want crims to stop crimming and addicts to drop the addiction we need to think outside the box and see our moral high ground for what it is: built on sand.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 August 2010
19:3966555here endeth the lesson.
we can now to turn to hymn 384 in hymns ancient and modern.
21 August 2010
19:4066556Howard - I think I love you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 August 2010
21:0266572thanks for that bern i must reciprocate.
i love me too.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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21 August 2010
22:0366582Then off with their heads (you can't beat a nice singsong and maybe a bit of knitting afore Madame Guillotine gets working)
22 August 2010
02:4666612Fancy words Bern, but no suggestions as to how we might do things differently. Until I hear a bit a sage on this subject I will stick to supporting purging the world of this scum anyway we can. Bleeding hearts are just as much trouble in my experience and I too have worked with junkies and seen a few snuff it thanks to their addiction.
In my view druggies and criminals are losers, and always will be. Of course there are exceptions but generally they are not worth losing sleep over quite frankly.
My daughter until very recently also worked with "problem" children and it was only after she'd been attacked and beaten up again and spat on by some poor misguided and misunderstood souls in a home in Bromley that I managed to persuade to give it up and help others who needed her more and would appreciate her efforts without resorting to violence. She now works with Safe Hands and enjoys her interaction with the old folks and doesn't come home battered and bruised after after a days work.
As I said before, "off with their heads".
22 August 2010
08:3866618So it's as easy as a couple of paragraphs on this forum is it? Someone should have said.....
Fancy words butter no parsnips Sid, and I no longer butter parsnips. I don't pretend it will be easy, or even that it is do-able, but I know there have to be better ways than the ones that are not currently working. But it will take more than a quango or three and more than a few sound bites to change the way we think about stuff. And if we really want to change thngs and not just bully people because we don't like the choices they have made and their effect on our society we will have to change how we think about them. Don't get me wrong: addicts can be devious dangerous sons of b**ches and I wouldn't turn my back for a nano-second - but that doesn't mean we can't think creatively about actually changing things rather than bleating about how they are.
