Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#1
Jaguar.
10% pay rise for Jaguar Land Rover workers as sales boom.
2,400 agency workers with JLR will also become permanent employees, a move that has been welcomed by union leaders.
At last, Bosses, Shareholders, Unions and at long last the workers getting their fare share. Common sence.
Osbourne.
The Tory Chancellor's new scheme would see employees giving up unfair dismissal, redundancy, training, maternity provision and flexible working rights.
He said: "Workers of the world unite.
Mr Osbourne, I say "they are going to unite"
20th October 2012 "A Future that Works" March & Rally.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#2
Gary, I don't think JLR has the traditional union agreements that you would recognise.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
a rise in luxury car sales suggests that some people are suffering a lot less than others.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#4
...best not transfer road taxation onto fuel prices...just yet.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#5
Howard, see what happens when people spend money - jobs are created.
Cut tax for all, get people spending and watch the economy grow.
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
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#6
A fresh beginning Gary, or the end of useless and destructive turbo capitalism?
Keith Sansum1
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#7
At least it will be a sigh of relief in such hard times.
Times that will get a lot harder of the next few years
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#8
Paul.
Its not about the union working with its own traditions, it's about firms such as JLR working for everyone within that company, including share holders and workers alike.
I have said many times that unions in the past have had their faults. Its all about balance and working together.
Howard, In this case 2,400 agency workers are getting proper jobs due to rise in luxury car sales.
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Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#9
My understanding is that JLR's booming sales are due to huge numbers being sold in China. I also hear that China's economy is slowing down alarmingly; it's not hard to see that, sadly, the boom in Coventry will not last long...
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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#10
.Good news then Gary.
Hope all is well.
Watty
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Paul.
I wasn't declaring it as a victory to the union; it is a victory for common sense and a step in the right direction.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#12
I fully support employees getting shares, either through bonuses or purchase, in their companies. It is the best way to reinforce that it is not a matter of them and us - it is in everyone's interest for businesses to be modern and profitable.
Andy - China's growth is indeed slowing but it is a healthy sign due to the nature of what is happening. The fast economic growth they have enjoyed so far has been led by capital investment, something that is not sustainable long term. It is now going through a natural evolution to a consumer economy with consumer demand driving growth. This is good for the world economy including us. Some people who speak negatively about it have not looked closely at what is happening and why.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#13
It has been annouced china is indeed having growth issues,
And Gary is right in the short term the employeess this time have at least got something out of the company making good profits, it is as has been said probably a short term thing, but at it should be celebrated the employees got something
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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#14
BarryW.
I agree with the share idea but not via the blackmail methods being used by Osbourne.
Shares in return for seeing employees giving up unfair dismissal, redundancy, training, maternity provision and flexible working rights, are not an option.
And has nothing to do with, or help with, our economic recoverery.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what if employers don''t want to sign up for the scheme?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#16
Their choice.
Gary - I would remove those so called 'rights' regardless or rather water them down from where they are now.
Better to do that, boost economic growth by de-risking employment and so creating more jobs and wealth.
Everyone will get more real job security from a dynamic and successful economy with a high demand for decent hard working employees than entrenching existing employees in jobs including those who may not 'apply themselves' to their tasks as diligently as they should. Ultimately this will be better for everyone, specially employees and the market will drive up wages too with the demand.
My point is that such so called rights are counter productive, suppress the market, suppress job creation, suppress wages and so on.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#17
Remove all rights for the working classes, how dare they expect to have some form of job security and stability in their life, ruining the country they are
Audere est facere.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW.
No suprises in that post.
I am sure you advise all your customers to have insurance cover in some shape or form to protect their assets.
Those rights are those workers insurance.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i haven't seem the details of the scheme but my immediate reaction is one of scepticism, i don't see many employees of small or medium sized companies going for it.
those working for the major supermarket chains will probably be in favour as their profits are fairly reliable.
Brian Dixon
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#20
tilmanstone salads [geest] had a share option,but then sold out a couple of years ago.
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