Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The Greek party Golden Dawn won 7% of the votes in the June 2012 election and consequently has seats in the Greek parliament.
Golden Dawn is now polling at 14%, becoming the third party in Greece, while the traditional PASOK socialist party has crumbled to 6%. PASOK once dominated the Greek parliament and for decades formed the government. And this party led Greece into total EU bankruptcy.
Now the leader of PASOK is attempting to have Golden Dawn declared illegal, even though the Greek constitution does not allow for a democratically elected party to be outlawed.
Foreign demonstrators form Europe have now flocked to Athens and have been mobilised by Pasok to have a democratically elected party banned.
Is this the face of the EU, of a system about to abolish Democracy and impose its failed system by brute force?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
On what grounds are they seeking this Alexander
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#3
Alex the purpose of the EU political agenda is to create a central unelected, self-appointed super-legislator and super-executive which controls absolutely the satellite 'democracies' which are the member states. The EU has never been about democracy, rather the perversion and eventual destruction of it, reducing once-great nations to the status of county councils.
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Brian Dixon
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#4
what ever.
Ross Miller
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#5
Really Alexander
I am sure your research turned up this
http://www.pappaspost.com/view-news/-/acontent/77986;jsessionid=A5276AC4619F65C5E67A0CFDEBD3773D and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29
Seems to have little to do with the EU and everything to do with them being, neo-nazis, thugs, criminals and holocaust deniers
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#6
Don't forget the racist bit Ross, and they're almost certainly homophobic too.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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#7
Indeed Peter
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#8
I bet they all love butterflies though.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#9
good god just lost the will to live.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#10
Roger, the answer to your question would probably vary from one perspective to the other.
PASOK's leader probably is seeking to outlaw a party that has more than double the support of his own party, which has attached Greece's economy to a "financial lifeline" coming from the EU, the same EU that has led Greece into utter bankruptcy.
The leaders of European governments then can sit back and pull the puppet strings and make the Greeks dance and humiliate them, while their decades of preaching "paradise on earth" have turned out to be one colossal hoax!
To me it looks as if PASOK is creating a dangerous precedent, effectively trying to prepare the way for the destruction of Democracy and Sovereignty and its replacement with an imposed Dictatorship.
This could be an EU experiment to see if it works in Greece. Who would be next?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
i bet the military top brass in greece are loving it all, probably polishing up their medals right now in preparation for retaking power.
i don't see the democratic process being able to solve their problems.
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#13
Howard, in some electorate districts in Athens, Golden Dawn achieved 20% of the vote in June 2012.
The belief is that many police and military voted for the party. The conclusion was reached because the results were higher in those areas where on-duty police, military and fire-brigade members voted.
But since then, support has doubled.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#14
Banning a political Party however nasty they are is absolutely wrong. If they were advocating terror or violence then they need to be dealt with under appropriate laws and, in which case, their poison would be exposed to the electorate who can make their own minds up.
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#12, agreed Howard, I've been predicting a military coup for a while.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#16
portugal will be looking at the situation closely bearing in mind their history.
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#17
It is worse in Greece than the press has been telling the people in Britain and Europe.
Wages and pensions, both public and private sector, have been cut by one third to half, hospital treatment is harder to come by, medicines and medical treatment in hospitals are not always available, pharmacies that give medicines for free prescriptions are not regularly refunded by the State and as a result are unable to fully replenish their stocks.
The suicide rate has doubled in three years.
Golden Dawn is calling on Greeks to donate for the poor Greeks and then distributes free food and medicines to the people in collection centres. They are now running a social service programme to supply essential medicines to the poor.
Unemployment is up from 17% one year ago to 26%, youth unemployment is at 54%. Many working people have become poor. Over half the Greeks do not support any party.
Golden Dawn's offices are reportedly being bombed by leftist anarchists, one explosion devastated half a street.
But much of this is not reported by the press, because we would see where the EU bankruptcy has led to, and where it is leading to.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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if its not in "the press" then where are you getting your info from?
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Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
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Never mind Greece, democracy is almost extinct on the forum. Lets worry about us before we worry about them. I was in Athens when the people were rioting, and apart from the fact that it was a bit worrying, the place was filthy, full of graffiti and left one feeling that this is a country on the brink.
Bring back David!
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