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- 27 August 2012 13:59188785Of-course, Neil, I understand the point being made about recruiting more soldiers while others are being sent home. These latter practically become reservists who have military training, while the new recruits are being trained.
So the number of serving and reservist soldiers increases.
When my dad left the Army after 22 years service, after a few years he received notice to present himself at the barracks again.
If a war breaks out, the MoD will no doubt send a letter to the reservists to present at crack of dawn at the regimental barracks!
Vic, as I've already explained to you, the Government is pulling the troops out of Afghanistan by 2014 at the latest. These people were elected into Parliament and have the confidence of those who voted them first past the post.
You can't just say it's all rubbish.
If we all had just one view, the imposed view of those who shout loudest, there would be no democracy, and any discussion would become silenced into a dictatorship.
Our soldiers must never serve a dictatorship, which is why you don't see me at political meetings!
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 28 August 2012 10:34188882From today's Telegraph...
" Forces morale
SIR - You report that morale in the Armed Forces has fallen sharply (August 24).
The manner in which loyal members of the Forces are being informed of redundancy is a scandal. That many lose their pension entitlement is a disgrace.
My son had six weeks' leave lost last year while serving in Afghanistan and this year's leave cancelled for duty at the Olympics, where he and his colleagues lived in a disused multi-storey car park.
Nick Harvey, minister for the Armed Forces, replied to a letter of mine by saying that the Forces are paid for 24 hours a day. That means that a rifleman earning £18,841 a year is getting £2.15 an hour. The EU working time directive does not apply to the Armed Forces, nor does the Human Rights Act. Who speaks for these men and women? They are certainly not being well served.
Alan Eastwood
Corwen, Denbighshire "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9501914/A-drastic-rebuilding-of-Heathrow-can-cut-through-this-airport-impasse.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 28 August 2012 11:00188885Thank you Tom and that letter is dead right,so it is only us as the public can standup for them,the way it is going there will be no one sighing up for duty,then what will happen? We have one of the best trained if not the best in the world army,and they need to be treated well, and as we can see that is not happing.Nick Harvey ,as he ever been in the Army on a frontline? He needs to be sacked and put a ex seving officer in his place. He can go home each night to his family, also gets very good pay for doing a job he knows nothing about.
- 28 August 2012 11:30188888[I have been, successfully, avoiding this topic until this morning.]
Sadly, I cannot accept that these circumstances have come about because of the rise to prominence of the 'bean-counter' mentality. There is more to this than cost.
Mission Fatigue, is for me the most likely driving force here.
It was pointed-out to me some while back (and the numbers involved will give you some idea of just how long ago this was) that 'we' take a child from the last year(s) of primary school, up through secondary school, onto tertiary-training or the dole, off into the army, off into theatre and back in a body-bag/stretcher in the time it has taken to 'secure peace' in Afghanistan, and the job goes on.
We have transformed the situation of having a well trained and efficient Standing Army to one where we have Constant Combat.
Instead of rotating forces between danger-to-garden and back, we now use-up and exhaust the personnel and discard them. This all has the potential of creating perpetual-motion, a tread-mill that is and shall continue to be, something very difficult to dismount from.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 28 August 2012 13:52188896I went into the army within a year o coming out of school at the age of just about 16.But I could have stay in for 22years if I had been fit to.I sigh on 22years but could have come out after 9,Infact I done six because of what happen to me.
- 28 August 2012 17:58188926Tom: Mission Fatigue. Hit the nail on the head!Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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