Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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#1
Just heard a homeless man found dead outside Premier Inn Dover - all those rooms he died outside. Not only person a homeless man jumped from Cliffs this year Feb 18 he was 42yrs old and more deaths all around country
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#2
Homeless person found dead and was not in home? Now there's a surprise. Personally I blame Mrs Thatcher.
We seem to have very short memories. I can remember in the 80s when I was working from an office near Southwark Bridge walking through Cardboard City - picture below - nice isn't it? With exception of North Korea I'm at a loss to know a country which does not have a homeless problem................
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardboard_City_(London)
"plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"
Homeless in Sweden:-
https://www.thelocal.se/20171209/how-swedens-housing-crisis-is-fuelling-homelessness
Homeless in Germany:-
http://www.dw.com/en/germany-150-percent-rise-in-number-of-homeless-since-2014/a-41376766
I can carry on .......................
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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#3
It must stop people just turning an eye to this , dead people in streets etc its unreal. The police come and undertakers clear up and everything back to normal as if nothing happened and no-one cared. Bless this man and those who die on our streets
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#4
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#5
Amberleaf50 wrote:The police come and undertakers clear up and everything back to normal as if nothing happened and no-one cared.
That is exactly the same for those who die alone in their own home, it should never happen but it will and nobody takes any notice which is even worse.
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Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#7
It is always convenient to blame councils who do their best with limited funding. I don't know the circumstances and history of the deceased but in the past we have found that a small minority cannot be helped and are deemed to be intentionally homeless.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#8
There are many agencies that try to help those who find themselves homeless, including DDC; the latter have been working for some time to address the problem in the district. However, it is a difficult problem to address, in part due to negative reactions by the majority of the public, as well as distrust of authorities on the part of the street homeless. There is a much larger, generally hidden problem of those who don't have a home but manage somehow to sofa surf round friends & family; of course this makes life difficult for them as they struggle to get help with no permanent address.
It is a sad fact that there is a small percentage of homeless people who do not want a permanent home/roof over their heads; this doesn't mean we should do nothing for them but we need to find a solution that helps both them and the rest of us...
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#9
the old borstal is empty at the moment, could be made use of
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Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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#11
Ill be going to lay flowers where this man died in respect of him and his suffering that I will do.
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
Do you have any factual details to support that rant?
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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#13
I will join you in damning the authorities if it can be shown that this death is their fault, but until the coroner reaches a conclusion I think we should be a little more circumspect
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
#14
We passed by early this morning and saw 4 police vehicles there and what was obviously a body under a sheet in the shelter opposite the Premier Inn.
Very sad. Nobody should die alone like that.
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Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,829
#15
Heard that the man was known as Wil and quite well known amongst the homeless community.
Guest 1165- Registered: 21 Jan 2014
- Posts: 22
#16
It's awful and sad that in modern britain people are still suffering! Thoughts go out to the man and friends,family affected by this. Finland has solved the homeless problem maybe it's time we copied what they're doing their program is called 'Housing First'
https://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2017/mar/22/finland-solved-homelessness-eu-crisis-housing-firstGuest 1535, Weird Granny Slater and howard mcsweeney1 like this
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#17
Chalk and Cheese
Finland
1. 73% of population member of Lutheran Church
2. Population growth almost zero.
3. Third most sparsely populated country in Europe
4. 95% of population either Finnish or Swedish
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#18
It would be sparsely populated with 75% of the country covered by forests. I don't see a connection with religion or nationality.
Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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#19
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Do you have any factual details to support that rant?
He died that enough whether he died of anything he died on streets so someone responsible Howard either way. Or is it we choose how a person dies to say 'aint my fault'. Drugs, drink, mental health or sheer down on luck somewhere someone is responsible or do the Police just drive past in freezing weather watching these poor souls lay there or anyone else?
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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#20
Pablo wrote:We passed by early this morning and saw 4 police vehicles there and what was obviously a body under a sheet in the shelter opposite the Premier Inn.
Very sad. Nobody should die alone like that.
Whats more sad is accross the road warm bed and rooms empty whilst he died.
If only everyone could be kind and honest what a better world we would be in.
