Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Dutch who appear to have become more radical and right wing since the EU banned smoking in public places which greatly affected their cannabis cafes are on a collision course with the EU over a threat to deport Poles and other Eastern Europeans who cannot find work.They also want to stop state benefits if they don't speak Dutch.
Brussels fears that other countries experiencing an influx of jobseekers from member states might be tempted to copy the Netherlands' threat, even though such a move would breach EU laws Holland has about 200,000 migrant workers from Eastern Europe. but a million-plus have come to Britain since Eastern European accession to the EU in 2004.
Other EU countries are flaunting regulations at will and so far have only faced reprimands, a slap on the wrist. this country however has followed the rules to the letter.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
It's always the same - we follow the rules to the last full stop and others don't, as they understand that the rules are made in order to bend them. It's the same with procurement and tendering.
Keith Sansum1
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I do have some sympathy with the dutch, but do fear even if the UK were to think of taking the same route wouldn't many of the jobs these geezers do on poor pay remain vacant, because UK citizens won't work for that dosh(so even won t work anyay)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Yes, the Dutch have become increasingly concerned, and there is a swing towards national values and interests.
It takes Dutch courage!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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There is a swing towards national values in all the more prosperous members of the EU, which will lead to its eventual disintegration.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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peter i disagree with the last part of your post.
if europeans are getting proserous then the eu is working.
and thats more than i can say about this contry on the whole.we are getting poorer by the day and constently being ripped of with higer taxes etc.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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brian, we are in the e.u.
anyway back to the dutch, the suggestion is that they are breaking the rules by denying benefits to immigrants from member states.
the fact is that they are following the rule that says anyone moving being countries either has to get a job or be able to support themselves.
maybe our politicos might like to look that up too.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That would be a start howard,
but just to follow that one up, some forumites also feel that they don' wish hm to take british jobs either so there is a dilema there
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard,i know we are in the eu,that wasnt the point i was making.my point is that sucsessive goverments have held us back from going forward to make finacial gains like other members of the eu.
Guest 717- Registered: 16 Jun 2011
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Bottom line is there must be a good reason The Netherlands is one of the least affected country in the EU by the recession. They are a very proud of their country and look after themselves.
Keeps politics to myself
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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helent,if thats the case we are years behind them.this and the last goverment has draged us down to a very low point,so much so we have lost pride in our sleves and our once great country.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Brian
i'm afraid i dont share all your viewpoint,
the last govt had its faults, but the decline started around maggie's days
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,maybe so but the point remains true,this country and its people have been dragged down so much its disgusting.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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brian;
my point was brian, its been a number of govts not just one of a particular colour
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,i am not blaming one party or another,its a combinde effort over the last 40 years.and its not getting any better.not now not in the foreseeable future either.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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who took what? lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think that helen's post got lost in all that.
i didn't know that holland had done so well over the recent crises, what i do know that it was always one of the most over densely populated countries in the world and that large scale immigration has caused even more problems to them than it has to us.
this is evidenced by a rise in right wing support from a population that are renowned for their liberalism and tolerance.
