Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
11:3227113Here, here, er...here!
Starts in a few weeks from Dover, after the tunnel work is complete I presume.
I know there are three early morning trains from Ashford already - maybe they will simply extend these down here?
St Pancras here we come!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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13 August 2009
16:3227124Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
16:3527125Timetable online, I could have a lie in and still get to a meeting in London
http://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/index.php/news/news_items/view/110Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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13 August 2009
16:4027126Andrew there's a couple of pictures of our transport enthusiast and guru Nigel Collor who sadly is a wee bit too much of a high flyer nowadays to contribute on here. ...him being KCC representative, DDC representative and to top it all Tory Chairman. Although we may coerce him now and again as he is still a member. These pictures were sent over by the man himself several months ago after he had made the inaugural trip to St Pancras on said train and very exciting it was too by all accounts.
I remember the night it was announced that the train would be coming to Dover, we had a grand impromptu party at the oul White Horse, and establishment you are familiar with!
..we had a few oul jars that night..Ah heady times they were so they were.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
16:4427127Yippee! how exciting is this and all kicking off on September 7, highspeed here we come, luvit
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 August 2009
16:4927128makes a pleasant change for something to happen before it is planned to.
pity that the station will not live up to the train for some time yet.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
17:0927135Really looking forward to using the Highspeed train,
but not looking forward to the increase in fares.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 August 2009
18:1227144Sadly that's very true Howard. I believe the delay has been caused by Network Rail.
There was to be some "Public Realm" works done before December, but certainly and sadly, won't be completed before September.
Great about the trains though, maybe there'll be greater impetus to improve the properties on the Folkestone Road - they certainly it.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 August 2009
19:2227148i doubt it roger, some of the owners live so far away and visit so rarely that they would be unaware of the new trains.
the "public realm" works were supposed to have been completed over 3 years ago, let alone before december.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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13 August 2009
21:5327162This is the press release form Southeastern
High speed preview reaches Dover and Ramsgate
Southeastern today announced the expansion of high speed preview services to Ramsgate, Canterbury West, Dover Priory, Folkestone Central and West. The new services will start from 7 September.
Charles Horton, managing director, Southeastern, commented, "We always hoped we could expand the preview service and thanks to the success of the first weeks we are now in a position to do this. We want as many people as possible to be able to experience the service before the full timetable is introduced in December."
There will be two morning peak services from Ramsgate via Canterbury West and two peak services from Dover Priory via Folkestone Central and Folkestone West, returning in the evening peak. All the new services will also stop at Ashford International, resulting in an additional peak service on top of the current three trains to St Pancras International.
An off-peak return train is also being introduced between St Pancras International and Ashford International via Ebbsfleet. Trains from Ebbsfleet International will continue to have six morning peak services to St Pancras International and seven services back in the evening peak. Throughout the day, services run twice hourly between Ebbsfleet International and St Pancras International. All the services will continue to run Monday to Friday.
The new services will radically improve journey times, for example saving 49 minutes on the average commute from Ramsgate and 47 minutes from Dover.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
06:4327179I can't believe that Folkestone still has two schedule stops - Central and West. This is crazy, for such a small Town as Folkestone, crazy for any Town in a High-speed scenario.
The slower trains can stop twice there, but it is crazy to have a fast-train stopping twice in the same Town - madness.
Somebody somewhere must stop this - it can also of course decrease the length of time from Dover to London by about 10 minutes or so, taking the time down to just under the magic hour if there's only one station to stop at.
Just because it's historic and a fact that there are two stations, it doesn't/shouldn't mean the train has to call at both of them.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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14 August 2009
07:4827190Well done gto our MP and everyone who lobbied to get the high speed train to Dover
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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14 August 2009
08:3527197It's good news for Dover about the HST but I agree with Roger that it is bizarre that Folkestone should get two stops. The argument is something about car parking but it will add time to the journey to Dover and is probably more about lobbying by better connected people.
Mark
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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14 August 2009
09:3527200There was always going to be an issuie about Folkestone .Folkestone West is a very busy station and if you look at the catchement area it serves its no wonder they want it to stop there .The residents of Hythe Sandgate to name but a few .It was all to do with parking .The last I heard Dover has got to sort out its parking problems for all these extra people travelling to St Pancras ??
Meanwhile we with a Victoria line service have to fight the battle as thay are going to reduce the trains stopping at Shepherdswell and Kearsney .
Always something to fight for .
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
12:3627210The prices worry me. £55.10 return! I hope railcards can be used with that - still around £37.
It will surely be cheaper to upgrade an existing mainline return ticket.
Given that the latest train departs at 07.42, I won't be making any pleasure jaunts until the full service comes onstream!
Well done Nigel and co for fighting for this.
How many commuters will move here now? Surely they will want to live close to the the station - why live at Whitfield and add 15 mins plus parking fees to your journey? Defeats the object.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
13:4327211Andrew - I think if you look at a weekly ticket the daily cost goes down a lot.
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 August 2009
17:4627222no doubt there will be some good deals if one knows where to look.
usually, somewhere on this interwebby thingy.
all depends how much the rail user has
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
18:0027227or ask you resident booking clerk,i wonder who that might be,so far very little good deals on the preview services,we railway staff can't even travel on it yet
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
18:2227229You're right John, if anyone should know, you would.
Roger
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 August 2009
18:2827232Website says Dover
Peak return £55.10 daily and £114.40 for a weekly ticket.
Been nice knowing you :)
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