Heart disease and what we eat: another view.
- 7 March 2012 23:14158047Food for thought here:
http://www.laleva.org/eng/2012/03/world_renown_heart_surgeon_speaks_out_on_what_really_causes_heart_disease.htmlI'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 8 March 2012 10:39158086I posted this recently but worth putting up again with Peter's link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2105132/Damn-low-fat-diet-How-reformed-vegan-John-Nicholson-gorges-foods-granny-enjoyed--felt-better.html
With this bandwagon starting to roll I'm looking forward to the time when a fry-up has got the healthy option sign against it on a menu. - 8 March 2012 16:23158164Peter, this is most interesting and I do believe a lot of what he says is correct: (quote):
"What you can do is choose whole foods your grandmother served and not those your mom turned to as grocery store aisles filled with manufactured foods. By eliminating inflammatory foods and adding essential nutrients from fresh unprocessed food, you will reverse years of damage in your arteries and throughout your body from consuming the typical American diet."---------------------------------------------------
Lincolnshire Born and Bred - 8 March 2012 16:41158173Ive read the top one there and very interesting. I would guess that guy talks a lot of sense and it appears some foods that we eat today were never designed nor should they be destined for our innards.
But every so often we get such contradictory reports. Only recently there was a report saying the only oil we should consume should be either Olive or Sunflower. Yours truly following on from the report which was widely featured on TV, purchased with gay abandon a bottle of sunflower oil in local supermarket..brimming with confidence on the promise of a restore to health...now we are seeing Sunflower is a no-no...Im definitely a confused dotcom on the food issue.
Interesting aspect...in the old days we used to eat more sensibly as suggested, but the population died younger. Food for thought!!
??email: dover7@msn.com - 8 March 2012 17:30158192Maybe it would be a better to return to using lard for a heart strangling fry-up
I've noticed just lately that quite a few TV chefs are advocating the use of olive oil saying not to bother with extra virgin olive oil? - 8 March 2012 17:33158194Duck fat.......for a game of soldiers.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson - 8 March 2012 18:04158204They died younger, mostly, because of things like appendicitis, diphtheria, measles etc. I guess.
It seems it is best to avoid ALL or as many, processed foods as you can. A lot of it is confusing though, and not sufficiently labelled.---------------------------------------------------
Lincolnshire Born and Bred - Brian Dixon
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8 March 2012 18:25158207dripping,suet puddings and treacle sponges.
- 8 March 2012 18:42158211indeed brian some of my favourites there, in our climate we need stodge to keep us going.
we all read about the mediterranean diet and how wonderful it is, no good to us in colder climes. - 8 March 2012 19:19158238Paul and Barry, from what I've been reading and seeing on tv recently,
sunflower = not so good as it has to be processed a lot,
olive oil = good for cooking,
virgin olive oil = very good for eating as in salad dressings etc, don't cook with it as it breaks down into nasties too easily,
fish oil (mackerel, herring) = best of the lot put does tend to taint a full english
I've been recovering from a cold for ages now and last week my body told me it wanted, indeed needed, a fry up of bacon, egg, fried bread, mushroom and tomatoes done in lard - and I had to agree with it. - 8 March 2012 19:59158244The message is simple - simple foods, not processed.
I tend to eat quite a lot of fruit and vegetables and very little processed food, but I still have a paunch - not huge I guess, but bigger than it should be.
Now, where's my sweets !!!
Roger - 8 March 2012 21:23158262Read and listened to the short video with much interest, must say do eat plenty of fresh veggies but not as much fresh fruit as one should.
Now lay off them there sweeties Roger
- Brian Dixon
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8 March 2012 21:27158263roger,would you like a bag of humbugs and a dripping sandwich with a touch of salt.
oh yes and a good copy of red flag [sorry wine]to wash it down. - 8 March 2012 22:41158283Ray,your body talks a lot of sense, mate!
- 8 March 2012 23:58158291I'm a diabetic, so don't eat any sweets - unless chocolate brazils are classed as sweets !!!
Yes, please Brian, pass the red wine - I'll blow my nose on the red flag.
Did you feel better after your fry-up Ray ?
Roger - 9 March 2012 09:52158314Roger, it gave me a real boost. Didn't cure the cold but the rest of me felt better - or was that maybe down to Morrison's £1 a bottle offer on Spitfire?
- 9 March 2012 15:28158377Thanks for the info Ray, you're a star
Hopefully the mushrooms weren't a bit on the 'rude' side - 9 March 2012 16:10158382Yes that is good info there in post 10 Ray as Barry W-S says. I didnt realise those intricacies in relation to the oil market. I often wondered what the extra virgin bit was about. I have a Napolina Extra Virgin one in the kitchen as I speak, got a deal on it, have just checked the label and yes Ive been using it wrongly. It's nearly gone. More salads and less fry ups is the message.
Steady on the Spitfire lads !!
email: dover7@msn.com - 10 March 2012 07:24158483Most if not all supermarkets sell cheap processed foods, which are the worst culprits, but with people's budgets being cut, it's no wonder, they're bought in such numbers - sweets for the kids - absolutely loaded with refined sugar.
A few years down the line, more than the money that is being cut now, will be spent on treating the people with heart-disease, diabetes, kidney failure etc.
Maybe more should be spent now on educating people about the consequences of the various foods and showing what they'll become and the pain involved.
Maybe legislation on foodstuffs and what they can make and sell. The proof is there.
I don't like the "Nanny-State", but this would save so much - for the individual and the state.
Roger - 10 March 2012 09:10158501Sugar is the worst culprit. I recommend a book by Professor John Yudkin, "Pure, White and Deadly". This details not only his extensive research on the effects of sugar but also the efforts of the sugar industry on both sides of the Atlantic to discredit him.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson