Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Vic, I think the case for and against each set of railings should be decided by local people. Where rails exist the case for removal should be examined and ditto where there are none but people think they should be there. Kent Highways must not be allowed to impose their agenda on local issues.
Nigel told me about the issue a week or so before it hit the forum courtesy of John. He was already on the case with KCC but John's forum and media crusade certainly helped KCC reach the correct decision. Good to see councillors from both sides working towards common goals even if each side fails to acknowledge the contribution of the other.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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Does it really matter who did what both John and Nigel worked to for the decision to be reversed, and I myself was on the JTB committee that voted on this issue.
So lets just say it was a combind effort
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I think that's what I said, Jan, my point is that party political point scoring over one success may prejudice future opportunities to work together for the community rather than for the party. Local government works when both sides trust each others' motives and work together and fails when there is party conflict.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Hear hear. Let's hope local reps take note.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I doubt it Bern, some enjoy the petty point scoring too much.
Most of the barriers, not all, are needed and should stay. Some drivers and some pedestrians will always ignore the law so I disagree with Vic on this one.
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Keith Sansum1
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you will find over the years parties of all political colours have been working together for some time.
I think some of the posters were indicarting nigel did at all, which has been the indication on other issues in the past, when you dig below the surface you will find a number of individuals, different politicians have worked together and alone to achieve.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Quite right Keith, so why should credit be given to (or claimed by) any particular person?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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PETER;
I Agree, so lets no proclaim as has happened in the past on some things that nigel was the saviour
when clearly many others felt there noses were put out of joint, when they had probably done as much or even more than nigel.
just keeping the theme all working together a better way
i will remind posters when they appear appear again doing the same
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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Chris
I do not understand your points about Kensington High Street. It is not always a slow road and pedestrian usage will far exceed that at Dover's busiest spots.
The point I was making is that here needs to be a rethink about priorities. Should we build barriers between the users of public spaces or should we encourage respect for ALL users? Are we going to give in to the car driver or are we going to make these spaces accessible to pedestrians and cyclists?
There are alternative methods than just segregation and they have proved beneficial. The old ways are not always the best and sometimes we need to examine what has become an established practice and explore alternatives.
Keith - I did not read Peters post as meaning that at all. Are we reading the same posts?!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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We The Tower Hamlets Labour group also dropped leaflets into 500 doors and we found only 2 people for doing away with the guard rails,and one of the was from the Dover Society who actually wanted less street furniture.
Ye Nigel stopped the removal Roger but without my coverage most people wouldn't have know about it until it was too late,that is because Nigel is a Kent County Coucillor,but it is surprising what local pressure can do
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
And that is one of the great things about this forum - it talks about stuff. Nice one, by the way, JHG. A bit of partnership working is impressive.
