Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#1
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
Isn't it up to people to learn English if they want to live here and use the services on offer ?
Why should GP surgeries or the NHS, pay for translation services ?
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#3
I seem to remember the late Robin Cook make the point that it was up to people to learn our language otherwise they cannot play a full part in our society.
The NHS is stretched enough without paying for interpreters.
The bigger picture is that the surgery will close and all other practices will take up the slack which they are not equipped to do.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#4
having read the article 3 times just clear up a few things,i have come to the conclusion that the article is on about the dover health center.its quite clear that they are posing a question of is the docters surgerys closing and what would happen to the patiants if it does,and not just the non English speaking ones.
the nhs along with other government bodies have a duty of care.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#5
I didn't read that Brian. The medical practice they mention is the GP surgery, not the main medical health centre.
They may have a duty of care Brian, but why should we all pay for translation costs ? I absolutely put the onus on the potential patients, to make sure they understand English.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#6
I think Brian was referring to the withdrawal of GP services Roger.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#7
I was howard,i did put a link on here a while back.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#8
roger,nhs England offerd to fund the interpaters.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
But why should they Brian ?
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#10
part of the carering society roger.
if you fell ill in a non English speaking country and they refused to treat you because you cant speak the lingo and refuse to get a translater because of what it costs,you would be a little peeved woodent you.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#11
The big difference Brian is that if we fall ill elsewhere the British embassy would supply the interpreters so there would be no strain on the taxpayers of that country.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#12
yes howard,i was going with rogers way of thinking.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
You don't usually Brian.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#14
Going off at a tangent I received a letter from our too long to type local NHS a few days ago advising me that an assessment followed by procedure is on the cards.
It went on to say that if I don't turn up I will be blacklisted.
The next paragraph informs me that I am entitled under the NHS constitution to be "sorted" 18 weeks after referral from my GP.
I was referred 90 weeks ago.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#15
caught you out there roger.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#16
90 weeks ago ! A bit of an insult to say that you'll be black-listed if you don't make it - unless you advise them earlier I guess. A tad outside their 18 weeks then.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I was told a few months back by the consultant that surgery was unlikely to be successful as it had been left too long.
Couldn't make it up.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#18
I don't know what the surgery is/would be required, but find that totally unacceptable that they can make you wait and then say it's too late.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not serious or life threatening Roger the condition is known as "Ulnar Claw", the last fingers of the hand close inwards are rendered useless. Fortunately it is my left hand but trying to lift anything is very difficult when both hands are required with double the strength in the right hand.
I don't think I will bother having the surgery - under general anaesthetic for one thing and if successful the best to hope for would be a 10% improvement.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#20
Thanks Howard.
Jean had something very similar where her fingers were curled up as in a claw and I did some research on the internet and the closest thing I could get to was the Ulner nerve - apparantly it is the least-protected nerve in the arm and she had a lot of surgery on her left arm for the fistula for her Haemo-dialysis; the thought was that it had become damaged during an operation to pick up a vein deep in her arm.
In the end, it was the least of her problems.
Roger
