GOOD NEWS ON THE SHOP FRONT

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• Terry Nunn

  • Location: London Road, Dover
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  11 September 2010     15:3969953
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  Greggs the bakers have put in a planning application to use 71 Biggin Street for a new store. That's what was the dry cleaners next to McDonalds. What with that and the other three shops on the other side being occupied (according to Stewart) things are looking up.
  
  Terry
  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  11 September 2010     15:4769957
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  Yay!! And Hurrah!! Good news indeed. Thanks Terry.
• Terry Nunn

  • Location: London Road, Dover
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  11 September 2010     16:5369971
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  The application, http://www.dover.gov.uk/planning/Applic_net/detail.aspx?systemkey=215663 gives the opening hours as weekdays 08.00 - 18.00 and Sundays as 10.00 - 16.00. Can't really see them doing much trade on Sunday.
  
  Terry
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• Guest 645

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  11 September 2010     17:0769973
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  It depends whether your want fresh bread or a nice french stick on a Sunday..good luck to them and Dover.Attracting another high st name has to be applauded.
  Marek
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• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
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  11 September 2010     17:2469976
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  Greggs do a lovely lamb and mint slice
  and a lovely shop
  
  love it
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• Guest 653

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  11 September 2010     17:2969981
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  Great news indeed.
  
  I heard a big name is coming into Town soon too, but want to check it out first.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Keith Sansum1

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  11 September 2010     17:3369987
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  ROGER
  Iv not left
  lol
  lol
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• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  11 September 2010     17:3969989
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  One of the things I have missed since moving here a dozen years ago was the bakers in our little village in Wiltshire - I used to take all the kids for a little walk to the bakers on Sunday mornings so we could have fresh croissants and rolls for breakfast, fetching the papers on the way home. Blissful times. It would be great to have another decent Sunday bakers within walking distance.
• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
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  11 September 2010     17:4669990
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  Funny
  on my yearly visit to south wales I used to always call into greggs
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• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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  11 September 2010     19:2569995
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  greggs will have queues outside thier door when they open, great quality and great prices.
  
  might give a kick up the posterior of some of our smug retailers.
• Ross Miller

  • Location: London Road, Dover
  • Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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  11 September 2010     22:3670022
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  Indeed Howard - they do a mighty fine cheese and onion pasty
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• Guest 652

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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  11 September 2010     23:5170023
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  Terry if rumours are right about the shops on the other side, a couple of small businesses are going to suffer, the leases have been sold from under them, that is if rumours are true
  Sheila
• Ross Miller

  • Location: London Road, Dover
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  11 September 2010     23:5570024
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  Paynes shut up shop today - the notice in the window said the lease had been sold and they had been asked to vacate the premises
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• Guest 653

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  12 September 2010     06:5770033
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  As Wellards ran that business and they are successful fruit and veg suppliers to the cruise ships, they may well open another one somewhere else in Dover - depends on whether Paynes shop was successful for them or not.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Keith Sansum1

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  12 September 2010     07:0370035
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  Maybe this is the time to look at that area and payes in particular.
  
  Paynes flouted the law every day by putting its produce so far out in the PEDESTRIAN precint.
  
  I used to get complaints every day from less able people unable to get round the produce that took up half of the pedestrain walkway. Other shops followed suit until the walkway was near full, and very hard for less able(partially sighted etc) to get round.
  
  Paynes were warned at one time, but continued,
  
  What do others think???
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• Guest 653

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  12 September 2010     07:0770038
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  I think it will be licensed quite soon - they already have table and chairs licensed and are working on street furniture like A Boards, so it makes sense to determine just how far businesses can encroach on the pavement.
  
  Some of them (not Paynes now of course) do put almost the whole of their shop out on the street, so some control is necessary, but I'm sure the businesses feel they are being screwed enough, so will not want to be reined in.
  
  
  
  
  Roger
• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
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  12 September 2010     07:1170041
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  ROGER
  As you say there has to be some kind of control, sadly Paynes flouted it from the day they opened, and its at what point do you take action(or do you?)
  
  If any shop(like paynes used to) flouts any new procedures, will the council want to take them on? or should they?
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• Sid Perkins

  • Location: Dover
  12 September 2010     10:0470055
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  I thought the produce being sold by Paynes was second rate and rarely used them. However, to claim they " took up half of the pedestrain walkway" is I think a slight exaggeration. That they had no time for petty beurocracy, enforced by petty beurocrats was a plus in their favour in my opinion.
  
  And, working to a level playing field, doesn't Bobby's hot dog stand stick out just as far, isn't always in the same position and is therefore more of a danger to the blind or poor sighted?
  
  I didn't/don't have a problem with either, but then I'm not trying to make a name for myself as a local politico, despite the erroneous claims on here.
• Bern

  • Location: Dover
  12 September 2010     10:3070060
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  Erroneous claims? Can't you get an ointment for that?
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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  12 September 2010     10:5070067
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  at least it kept any cars from going up there,thats the only advantage i can see.

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