Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Howard have you been drinking?
You are complaining that we pay a fortune to the EU but you don't want Farage going on tv and saying the same thing. His raison d'etre is to bang on about EU waste and bring it to our attention.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Heres some information;
judge for yourself;
all on our nigel farrage MEP he has done the following;
Paliamentary questions 78 154th
motions 01
speeches 112
written declarations 01 164th
reports amended 0 726th
reports drafted 0 476
opinions 0 475
ATTENDANCE;
71.94%
141 out of 196
ranked 708
participation in roll call
50.13%
1,857 out of 3, 704
ranked 743
loyalty to political group
52.44%
934 out of 1,781
ranked 717
loyalty to national party
96.92%
1,795 out of 1,852
ranked 623
there sure that helps???????
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
not a lot kieth.how many times did he use eurostar compared with flying,and did he go first,buissness or 2nd class econamy.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Apologies Keith that means nothing to me
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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david
you bang on about politicians wasting our money then say it is ok for farage to do so, as it happens i agreed with his stance about a decade ago, everyone knows it - just an old record now.
people are either for or against the e.u full stop.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Howard, I haven't said that at all, are you sure you haven't been drinking.
I am vehemently anti EU and everything it stands for, I would leave it tomorrow. The point about expenses is irrelevant, he has to travel to Brussels the same Charlie has to travel to Westminster, I assume Farage lives in London. The way you and Paul are talking he was interviewed on the Moon.
For me Farage is the most entertaining politician around
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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And actually, people aren't for or against full stop, plenty want to be in but with less input from them. Thats why Farage, keeps, you put it, banging on.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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David you and I are not far apart on Europe.
I would prefer Nigel Farage [who I also like & find entertaining] to do his job in Europe .
I would also like him to ensure the South East gets its share of the EU budget for growth & regeneration.
As we pay in I would expect he fights for our share & comes & represents the Maritime issues, the transport issues & how the EU bureaucracy thwarts grant aid for SME's, the sector you're in.
As Vic could not get him down to Dover as a former PPC [see previous postings] I wonder whether Mr Farage as our MEP for the South East is doing his job in the South East [his constituency] or in his attendances in EU Parliament or committees?
Is that a fair question to ask David?
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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well thought the last post of mine outlined his record for those that wanted to know
but heres some more;
Fisheries committee 2011 didn't attend 1 meeting
2012 didn't attend 1 meeting
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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spot on keith, farage continually griped about the eu fisheries policy yet never bothered to turn up at a single meeting.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Admittedly I'd never vote at the European elections, as to do so would mean recognising the EU and giving its parliament authority.
It's also true that Nigel Farage receives an EU salary, and this possibly puts him at a vantage point in UKIP, as he needn't worry about a salary and many of his expenses are covered by the European state.
PaulW, so what do you think about the point that the European Union has a law-making parliament whose laws are binding for all ex-sovereign-states that are members of it?
Is this not technically a state?
The British Parliament cannot make any laws that are not subordinate to EU laws.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Alex, I'm not getting into one of your circular debates.
Fact; the EU is not a country. No debate.
As for Nigel Farage, he is elected for the South East & draws a salary as such.
He has a responsibility to attend to make his arguements and try to amend legislation or vote against.
Not to do so is to disenfranchise those who elected him.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulw
to be fair
you wasn't saying the same when one of your own members moved to Sheffield but still wanted to hold on to his barton seat at that time
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i doubt the fisherpersons along the south east coast would be impressed if they knew of the shenanigans, not a political game to them or their families.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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tried to find out what other committees hes on
hes not shown on any
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Wasn't disputing the piece about Nigel Farage, Paul, just noting that as a member of an anti-EU party, he draws an EU salary.
Of-course the EU is not a country, Paul, it's a state that people give authority to when they vote at the European elections, thus detracting from British Sovereignty.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not britain's sovereignty alex all 20 odd member states sovereignty.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Right you are, Howard. It means detracting from the sovereignty of 27 countries.
Perhaps we should ask Nigel Farage why he dwells in the EU cave and draws a stipendium from there.
If he is a Trojan Horse, by now he should have accomplished the mission. It took the Greeks one night to conquer Troy.
Nigel's been at it for considerably longer.
His salary is assured, and he claims expenses too.
So if we left the EU today, would he be happy for this? Or would he suggest to wait a little longer?
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I don't now why he would be in London on working days , maybe it wasn't ?
And I agree he should be getting as much of our money back as possible he probably doesn't get much cooperation at the EU parliament in any of his endeavours
Watty you can request this info from the press office for a full explanation
His wife is German so he probably spend a lot of time in Europe
I do now that when he is in the parliament he give it to them good and proper , we would all miss his rants
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The European Parliament only sits in full session on 56 days each year.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson