Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Paul, I haven't told anyone!
The solution to the energy crisis needs to be found in a research centre. This needs to be set up in Dover.
Only then will the blueprints be made manifest.
But fracking is definitely a no-runner, as it not only destroys the rocks beneath the ground's surface on a massive scale through shattering in horizontal directions, but also causes horrendous pollution of the underground water tables.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There are some horrible examples of what fracking has caused in the USA, with methane leaks and salt domes collapsing, causing sinkholes and the evacuation of communities.
And people suffering from illnesses.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Sorry Alexander, all propaganda and it's been proved in the courts in America that it is such.
Hells teeth! If coal, oil, gas and nuclear were discovered today and not hundreds of years ago they would all be banned by the likes of Obama, Cameron and all the other whiners who are supposed to lead us all.
Think about that for a minute.
No power meaning average lifespans lasting a mere thirty or forty years. No cars, hospitals, factories, communication, radio, television, internet (remember that next time you post on the forum) and millions of other things which make our life more tolerable.
Fracking is good. Coal is good. Gas is good. Oil is good.
Wind farms are evil. Solar panels are evil. Tidal power is evil and impossible.
Environmentalists a scourge.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Tablets not working Philip ?
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Philip.
"Tidal power is evil and impossible"
Could you explain, please?
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Wish you had not asked that Gary......I will have to switch off now........
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Philip, fracking is not the same as coal, oil or conventional gas exploitation.
Layers of rocks are shattered beneath the surface in order to extract gas, and the effect this has on the ground in time of an earthquake could be devastating.
It does involve pumping horrendous amounts of poisonous chemicals into the ground, which contaminate the underground "drinking" water too.
Water has been known to come out of kitchen and bathroom taps in flames, ignited by the gas, where fracking takes place, and people have been known to suffer serious symptoms from the gas, which evidently seeps up into the environment.
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No comment on the various forms of renewable energy you mentioned, as I'm not going by elimination.
Could be any or none of them!
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Reg.
I'm sure I have asked this question before but can't remember if anyone came back with an answer.
Apart from solving the salt corrosion problem, I can't see why this almost constant free power is not used?
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Brian Dixon
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a bit to salty for my likings garyc.
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Low salt is ok Brian
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The myths surrounding fracking are legion on the internet. Film of fire water coming out of peoples taps are hysterical nonsense and this was happening many years before fracking was invented. It is very common in areas where methane is present in the water table. Environmentalists have been using this to show the dangers of fracking where none exist.
As for chemicals being injected into the ground this is another myth. The main chemical pumped in is water and other chemicals in minute quantities are added in order to help the extraction. That water is then treated to make it safe before disposal.
As for tidal power it's virtually an impossible technology to develop and is only successful on a very small scale. Different tidal conditions make the technology extremely difficult to work so that in rough conditions they won't work and the same in calm waters. The damage they do to the marine ecosystem is immense.
Tidal technology is also extremely ugly and presents massive problems for shipping making any areas where there is this technology a no-go area for all shipping.
The infrastructure to link any tidal power to the grid is not only expensive but extremely disruptive.
It is also very, very expensive and would rely on even bigger subsidies than the useless wind farms, which also don't work, in order to get companies to invest in them. Expect bills to quadruple.
Did I mention how expensive it would be to maintain the machines?
Reg, I don't need tablets - just a little research and the headaches just fade away.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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ok gary.
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Philip.
"Different tidal conditions" "rough conditions" "calm waters" "damage they do to the marine ecosystem"
"massive problems for shipping" "infrastructure to link any tidal power"?
100's of Wind turbines are already sited off our coast, so that rules out 2nd 3rd 5th & 6th reason.
The tidal conditions in the channel are two ebb and flows per day, east west, low high with the only critical condition, being any rotating parts must be below the lowest of the ebb tides for maximum efficiency.
I could see that there might be some damage to the marine ecosystem but I don't know what or if it is enough of a reason not to look at this source of power, for our future needs?
I still cannot believe that these designers of the wind farms, spent and are still spending, £millions on in-frequent wind power, when almost constant tidal power, was only a few feet away?
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Fracking will go ahead because it has enormous money and Government support and lucrative tax breaks
but it will cause enormous problems and be a danger to East Kent aquifers
Keith Sansum1
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Theres no doubt a recent programme showed the damage caused to local houses once franking had begun in the area,
So not a rumour.
Probably need to know more about the dangers of franking
putting people before profit
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Chris- Forum Admin
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Paul Wells wrote:Any reason my posted are being deleted ?
Because it was just another post mocking Alex.
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So that's why Paul has left. Shame - big shame.
Roger
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I thought that franking was something carried out by Royal Mail
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Carole lol thats what i thought at first lol
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