Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Peter Garstin wrote:Well you know that Gary is full time carer for his wife and is therefore on benefits and unlikely to be paying income tax or NICs so I fail to understand the relevance of the question. Add up all the other taxes above Gary pays and I would suggest that his total tax bill as a percentage of his income is not far short of yours.
Actually Peter I do know some carers who are taxpayers so the question is relevant.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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GaryC wrote:Peter.
The relevance of BarryW question is obvious, if not totally misguided.
What he is really wants to say is "why do I have the right to make comments on Tax when I don't pay any myself"?
BarryW. None is the answer, as you well know.
My question. " how much benefits did you receive last year"?
I am at a loss as to "But as he is so keen on everyone paying a lot of tax it becomes a fair question to ask even if you do not expect an answer"
That's is simply not true and as such, is offensive.
I could go into blowing my own trumpet, as you often do, about my working history but I won't bore the forum with silly tit 4 tat.
I will say that I am far more proud of my work history than you could ever be and as you have never experienced anything like the work that I have done, being proud of what you do, has no meaning for me at all.
Gary - first of all to ask about benefit would be too intrusive and I certainly would not ask about that. Let us put one other thing 'to bed' I am not either suggesting in any way that you are among those I would class as a scrounger. I understand that you have genuine reasons for claiming and are active in various things. This is not and was not a dig either.
You may well pay taxes on some income for all I know - many carers do and I am in a position to know this to be a fact. So I did not know the answer when I asked it.
You claim to be offended by what I said - well get over it. We all get offended at times, me included, so what, that is life and it would be boring if it was so bland that we were never offended,....
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW
Carer's are allowed to earn around £100 per week before it starts to affect their CA, that is not enough to pay tax on. So what position are you in to say for a fact, that many carers you know, pay tax on their income?
If your life is so boring and bland that you feel the need to offend other posters just for bit of self indulgent light relief, you really do have some issues that need dealing with.
Being offensive just for a bit of fun is spoiling this forum.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Offense goes both ways Gary. You also assume too much. As I have said, I know carers who do pay tax and as a result cannot claim some benefits. I do not know the details of your circumstances so have no idea if you were one of those.
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Food banks struggle to feed hungry as demand rises
Charities torn between helping those in need and resisting prospect of taking over duty previously
fulfilled by state
In the 13th most deprived borough in England, a fragile part of the local emergency welfare ecosystem
is in danger of collapse. Haringey food bank, in north London, has warned it is struggling to meet the
explosion in demand for food parcels from local people living on the breadline.
The food bank was evicted from its rent-free warehouse at short notice by a developer last November
and has not found a suitable home. It still collects food donations but now distributes them from two
small temporary outlets, a church and a local play centre. There is little storage, no room to talk to clients
and no office space. The landline telephone number listed on its website no longer works. Its one
full-time administrator has had to be laid off.
At the same time demand is rising inexorably. The food bank's food vouchers are distributed to
the local job centre as well as charities and social workers, who in turn issue them to penniless,
hungry clients.
The number of emergency food parcels given out has doubled in the past 12 months, and is
expected to soar again as welfare reforms such as the bedroom tax and the benefit cap, which
will cut the incomes of thousands of the borough's poorest residents, begin to bite.
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Audere est facere.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Food banks: Britain is about level with Greece, where Golden Dawn distribute food and medicines free to Greeks.
Here the food parcels are distributed to Brits, who live in cardboard boxes.
All others get free council flat and welfare cheque.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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BarryW.
In #62 you state "I understand that you have genuine reasons for claiming"
In #64 you state " I know carers who do pay tax and as a result cannot claim some benefits. I do not know the details of your circumstances so have no idea if you were one of those."
So you do know that I am one of those claiming benefits and as such not paying Tax.
Many thousands such as me would have no reason to use your services, as it would be illegal to claim C.A. and earn enough to pay Tax.
So you might be an expert on Avoidance but you are not an expert on Benefits.
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Food banks will be busy at anytime, its free food. Imagine the queue at Tesco if they offered the same
Keith Sansum1
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Garyc
You get no sympathy from the likes of Barryw/David L
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith, how dare you make that allegation.
I've come to the conclusion that you are duplicitous (I appreciate you'll have to google it) and dangerous.
I have every sympathy for Gary's situation, my post is in reply to Reg, nothing whatsoever to do with Gary. To think morons like you held office for 25 years, its no wonder Dover is on its knees
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GaryC wrote:BarryW.
In #62 you state "I understand that you have genuine reasons for claiming"
In #64 you state " I know carers who do pay tax and as a result cannot claim some benefits. I do not know the details of your circumstances so have no idea if you were one of those."
So you do know that I am one of those claiming benefits and as such not paying Tax.
Many thousands such as me would have no reason to use your services, as it would be illegal to claim C.A. and earn enough to pay Tax.
So you might be an expert on Avoidance but you are not an expert on Benefits.
I do not know your circumstance in any detail at all. I just give you the benefit of the doubt and as such had taken on board what others have said. You deliberately misinterpret what I said probably because of that massive chip on your shoulder. Read it carefully. I would not accept you as a client, make no mistake about that, I could not work with you and would not want to.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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David;
I did indeed google that word(not heard it before) certainly way off the mark.
I'm pleased though(as im sure garyc is)that you support his plight.
of course when we come to the wider benefits system even garyc agrees something needs to be done.
The present system is not thought out, and needs to be looked at again, rather than going down a blind alley
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith, making the sort of unfounded allegation you did is far worse than duplicitous.
And please desist from trying to patronise me, that fact that you are either pleased or displeased is utterly irrelevant, you are a very dangerous and cowardly person.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Totaly incorrect david
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Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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It is a factual statement, you said I had no sympathy for Gary, that borders on libellous, you have absolutely no right or basis in foundation to make that allegation.
It simply confirms what I have suspected for a while
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It did follow garys comments, and you have posted on benefits and those claimimg in other threads, anyway
if we move to what we think of you or any other poster on here it will do little to harmonise debate.
So going to Reg's post9which is the one you now say you were refering to)
It is sad that we are in a society that has to rely on such ventures, although they are well needed, and thankfl that the volunteers provide them.
Having visited the Dover one it is surprizing whjo attends them and who is caught in the trap through no failt of there own
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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david
perhaps you could edit post 71.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Keith, let it be absolutely clear what I think of you and your unfounded remarks. An opinion is one thing, lies are another, you don't have brains to recognise the difference.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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Howard, you edit it if you want, I stand by every word of it. I'm not having morons making unfounded allegations