howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 February 2010
21:3039835there was a thread started on this bit cannot trace it.
it was a multi agency thingy designed to get residents and traders together to work woth the councils and quangos in order to reverse the decay.
has there been anything happening since the inaugural meeting?
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 February 2010
00:1239860I think they have gone in with priory forum
but maybe roger/sheila can tell us more
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2010
10:5539870At the last meeting when I was chair, it was decided that the Priory Forum would keep seperate to this action group, although give its support if needed, this group only wanted to concentrate on Folkestone Rd, Priory Forum represents the whole of Priory ward, not just one Road, its all very well clearing one place, but it moves the problems back to the Clarendons and Winchelsea areas, which is now happening, the Forum should have a representive from each of the areas, Winchelsea, Effingham, Clarendon, Westbury, Belgrave and Longfield, and fight for these areas, without a representive on the committee of these areas there is not a proper Forum
Sheila
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 February 2010
18:4339922That was the meeting at whcih you submitted your resignation Sheila; I didn't realise then that it was because you were unhappy about the help that the Multi-Agency group was giving to the area.
Admittedly they had to start somewhere and Folkestone Road was decided where that help would start and when they had it organised, it would spread out to other areas of the Priory area, likr the Clarendons etc.
There are the Police and PCSOs, Waste Services from DDC, Community Development people, Private Sector Housing, all working to help resolve the various problems faced by residents.
Local Landlords are being written to asking them to attend a meeting, so this Multi-Agency group can advise them what we are trying to do to give every one a better deal.
The Priory Forum is still operating, but it isn't easy to make progress at the moment as the Secretary is very poorly in hospital, the Treasurer has disappeared and many members of the committee don't turn up to meetings.
We do want to make progress and get new members so we can bring greater benefits to all those who live here.
Come and (re)join the Priory Forum Howard, perhaps you'd like to be the Chairman, Treasurer or the Secretary, as well as Assistant Editor for the Dover Forum. You could represent the Clarendon areas.
Why don't you return too Sheila and be the representative of the Westbury's.
I agree it would be good to have representatives of these areas/roads on the Forum; the more people put into it, the more they'll get out of it.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 February 2010
19:4339930not for me roger, thanks but no thanks.
when i left it approx 3 years ago it was just attended by councillors, council officers and police officers.
i was the only one there without a badge.
things came to a head at a meeting at the community centre when a police officer laid into me for comments i had made on the internet about anti social behaviour blighting the lives of local people.
she claimed that my remarks were not helpfu, i replied your patrols are not helpful, they go past every night about 8 pm and do nothing, they solved the problem immediately and stopped the patrols.
the row between me and her continued with those present agreeing with my side of things.
the debate was then halted and the chairperson agreed "that the police were doing a great job"!!!!!
i simply left at that point and never went back.
i know what you are saying about multi agencies, but i find that they all look after their own back at these meetings.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 February 2010
02:0439964No Roger it was not at that meeting, it was a couple prior to that, we said at the time that we did not want to take part, but was asked if we had an action plan, of which you made, the Priory Forum never wanted it to be just the Folkestone Road, you did, but not the rest of us, the action plan you presented for us the Forum, the Folkestone Road agency took one look at it and it was brushed aside, we said we had been there done that and got the tea shirt if you remember, and they would stab us in the back the same as last time, once achieving clearing up the lovely Folkestone Road, the Clarendons would get left as before.
I do not like what you have implied about the treasurer, disappearing, it is the secretarys husband, don't you think they have enough on their plate at the moment.
We have worked hard on the Priory Forum and got a good name, we do not want to see that name go down the pan, by supporting just the Folkestone Road, some work by the Folkestone Road agency has been done, have you bothered to see what impact it has had on the side areas again, in the alleys etc.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 February 2010
08:2839972But Sheila, whatever exercise or project anyone does - anywhere, you have to start somewhere and if you start in the Folkestone Road, it is a high-profile road, it would then be widened out.
You would have been (still could be) able to influence it from within, but by resigning, you give up any influence.
I'm not going to say private things on a public forum Sheila, but you know very well what I mean by the Treasurer disappearing and yes I do know what the family are going through, that's why I'm not bothering them.
The Priory Forum is not just supporting the Folkestone Road, it's supporting the whole (Priory) area; the Multi-Agency groups is just, at this moment in time, working on improving the conditions of people in this area.
The Priory Forum's wider issues are still the bus service, the one way streets and the play area, but we can't make progress with no one attending meetings can we ?
The Priory Forum hasn't deserted the people, the people (the committee) have deserted the Priory Forum.
Roger
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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8 February 2010
10:2239977A little bird tells me there will be a continuation of the bus service around Clarendon and Maxton .
I think another question at full council re play areas is called for .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 February 2010
12:1039987is it the same little bird that told me of a company up in herne bay taking over the franchise susan?
regent or regency, something like that.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 February 2010
18:5640039How come those little birds don't talk to me ? I'd love to listen to them.
Roger
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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8 February 2010
18:5740040You're probably right Sue - I'll try working on one.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 February 2010
20:1040049they will be doing a dummy run on the 22nd february to get an understanding of the demands of the route.
a transport bod from kCC will be aboard.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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8 February 2010
22:1840059Got it in one Howard .I wonder if Nigel is up to date on this one .Perhaps little birds no longer whisper in his ear .No it wasnt pillow talk just in case you are all wondering .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 February 2010
22:3240061you are getting to read me like a book susan!!!!
i now have an informant within the portals of maidstone,no other way of getting information about our town otherwise.
the local press are not interested, our councillors say nothing, although i understand that one is ill at the moment.
the only way to get the truth in dover is to get inside information.
nothing is moving on the one way system in the clarendon area either.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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10 February 2010
08:3940174Good morning
Could i start by saying my computer is having probs so got to go back to doctors.
On the issue of the prioiry forum, I do feel its not helpful to air issues that have been raised about individual committee members on this forum, i'm aware of the issues around these committee members, and i just hope with all there problems that they don't look in on these postings.
There are many issues around the Priory ward that need attention, and whilst as Roger says you need to start somewhere, the play area would have been a great issue for all agencies to get together on to achieve.
I do understand Sheila's comments ref moving the problem, a good example of this is the alleys, walk along them one day to see.
Im glad the priory forum is still in place, and i hope the time out for people will give them time to re look and hopefully in time re group.
On the question of the police at that time if i recall correctly the police did a walk round with the highly respected PCSO lyndsey read
and at the meeting I did state the police were doing a good job(why not praise when praise is due)
no ones perfect, and other issues were also continueing to be looked at by many agencies.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I was looking for the thread about the fairly recent "Action Group" formed by Sir Peter Wallace whereby anyone who is anyone would get involved in sorting problems in the Folkestone Road area once and for all instead the usual sticking plaster solutions.
This thread came up from 6 years ago, good to know things never really change.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All seems to have died a death, 9 councillors representing the ward and all sorts of promises end up not being kept.
Doubtless it will be rekindled nearer to election time.
Jan Higgins
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At all levels they show their vocal and visible sides when election time comes around regardless of their political viewpoint or whether they are any good. They then have the nerve to wonder why so many of us view political people with suspicion and or contempt.
Peter Wallace although not very vocal on the Facebook sites I am on does step in when there is a problem he can look into unlike any of the others whose name I might recognise.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I agree in general Jan but 9(nine) councillors that show no interest in this part of the ward. Peter has got approval for two new benches in Elms Vale Recreation ground but nothing on the play area in Priory. Pam Brivio, Roger Walkden and John Heron are members here but prefer to keep their own views to themselves much like others in the past. Gordon Cowan is excused due to the sterling work he put in in keeping the bus service. The strange thing is that people like Keith Sansum and Sheila Amos who are not councillors any more are much more effective in the ward.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Blimey Howard, digging up all this past history(
) when I was chair of the forum we worked for the whole of the ward (Priory as it was then) not just the Folkestone Road, Roger then took over as chair, I think they done a couple of clean ups with the authorities, but all seemed to go quite, I don't think the forum is going now, which is a shame, we were a good group, there is now a group run by the authorities, called the Folkestone Road Hub (ex Winchelsea Hub) which runs out from the Clarendon and Westbury Centre on a Thursday evening from 5.30 until 7.30, it is not just for Folkestone Road it is for all the surrounding area, not very well advertised to suggest this, entrance is free