howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
There has been a lot of criticism about Dover town council's refusal to fly a union flag but Deal town council is doing it without any pressure being exerted.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/town-hall-prepares-to-fly-20585/Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
Well done Deal Town Council.
Roger
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
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#3
A lot of criticism of DTC over this. However, the obvious place is the DDC's town hall. It would be ridiculous to erect another pole on Maison Dieu House as has been mooted, or worse next to the War Memorial. Just think what might be hoisted on a Friday or Saturday night.
What's the problem with flying it from the town hall? They might have to buy a new one from time to time but that's all.
I'll shut up now.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#4
The town hall seems the most logical location as the building is a stand alone tourist mecca and something that locals can relate to.
The current campaign is a bit over the top in my view, not taking into account that the flag may be redundant in September and a new one will have to be commissioned.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#5
terry,nothing wrong with aunties bloomers being hoisted on a Friday or saterday night.
but could be worse some rotten person might string the town clerk up it.
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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#6
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:The town hall seems the most logical location as the building is a stand alone tourist mecca and something that locals can relate to.
The current campaign is a bit over the top in my view, not taking into account that the flag may be redundant in September and a new one will have to be commissioned.
Have they really taken over Howard?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeccaDo nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#7
The flag has always been flown from the Maison Deiu, of which Maison Deiu House (DTC) offices was part, when the memorial was put in place that was also in the grounds of the Maison Deiu, all this was fenced off, until the fencing was removed for the war effort, so it seems only right that is where the flag should continue to be flown, its our history, why change it
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#8
ask the town clerk and the mayor Sheila.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#9
Why is that TOWN clerk in office ?she has got the backs up of the public of Dover and should have gone two years go .
But she not have got the job in the first place.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
Once the location is decided upon the issue will be which flag.
The union one will have to redesigned should the scots vote for independence in September and my preference would be for the flag of St George.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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#11
Or the Cinque Ports flag, Howard? A bit more stylish and a reminder of town's heritage.
http://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/flags/cinqueports/Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#12
Great idea!
Seems that DDC might have trumped DTC on this issue, wait for an announcement.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
Muddied the waters there Mark, the Cinque Ports flag is very striking and is part of the town's heritage but I would still plump for the flag of St George.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#14
Yes Ray, very eye-catching on my way to the tip yesterday!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#15
Brian
Why should I ask the Town Clerk or Mayor, the Maison Deiu is the Town Hall where the flag has been flown for centuries, of which the war memorial and DTC office WAS once part of. So why change history and put another flag pole right next to the one already there.
Our flag flies daily over Dover, on top of the Castle where all can see, even France on a good day
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#16
because people want one flown there all year round.i am sure dtc wont miss a few buffets.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#17
The Town Hall has a flag pole and belongs to DDC, so flying the flag there is DDC responsibility.
Maison Dieu House (Town Council Offices) is a listed building and DTC are not allowed to stick a flag pole on the building due to its listed status.
The land around the War Memorial, I am informed and the benches fiasco confirmed, belongs to DDC and therefore placing a flag pole on it is not in the immediate remit of DTC who would have to ask for DDC's permission to proceed with such a project.
Deal Town Council has full control of Deal Town Hall and no such restraints - hence they can fly flags as much as they like.
I do simplify here, but then the newspaper simplifies to the opposite extent and makes no mention of the land and jurisdiction issues which constrain the Town Council (whether or not they desire to get involved in flag flying).
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
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#18
Well said Neil.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#19
I have no time for the town council or its town clerk but on saying that this is a issue over nothing why would you put the flag on the council office? town hall yes castle yes but the town council office!
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#20
Vic Matcham wrote:why would you put the flag on the council office?
Because it's a public building.
Interesting info here from the link Mark made above about
the protocol for flying flags.