howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i always thought that the vehicles that collected wheelie bins had very different equipment to those that took the black bags meaning that wheelie bins would be issued on an area basis rather than a property one.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
peter,only a small portion of dss tenants dont know how to behave,some none dss tenants are just as bad if not worse.
DSS tenants often do not have the best incentives to behave. What stake do they have, realistically, in their environment? That isn't to diss DSS tenants, just an observation. Many people choose to behave badly...............
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
thats right bern,its when dss tenants get dissed reguley then they start playing up.if left alone they behave in a reasonable manner.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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sorry to say that from what i have seen the d.s.s tenants in buildings converted into bedsits and one bedroom flats are a disaster area.
the same cannot be said for most families in rented houses.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Homeowners generally behave responsibly as they have an investment in the neighbourhood. Private tenants also have an interest because if they trash the property they will lose their security deposit and be kicked out. Council tenants are monitored by the council and tend to be responsible. DSS tenants have no such financial incentive to behave properly and most private landlords will not touch them with a barge pole.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
There have been a lot of sweeping statements about DSS tenants on here.
Not all of them are bad only the few that are noticed by their bad behaviour. We had a DSS tenant who was very good, she kept the house and garden as if it was her own.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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You are right Jan. But my point was not that most DSS tenants are bad. It was that most bad tenants are DSS. There is a big difference between the two statements.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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You are right Jan. But my point was not that most DSS tenants are bad. It was that most bad tenants are DSS. There is a big difference between the two statements.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Householders in Bedford have been threatened with £1,000 fines if they leave their wheelie bins out for too long. The penalty would be the largest ever imposed on those who fail to remove their empty bins from the pavement after they have been emptied.
Letters warning of the £1,000 fine have been sent out in Bedford, where council chiefs say bins on the pavement are a hazard to blind people. So is this the sign of things to come and where does one put a wheelie bin?
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i wonder if they have a system where people leaving black bags on the pavement re fined, just as much a hazard.
if d.d.c. done that here they would reap a small fortune, would certainly help with the revenue stream.
iincidentally the fine for shoplifting is about 50 quid i believe.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I thought the Government had banned councils from fining people for such things.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
Peter, I think that's coming soon.
There's a strange logic in the argument that the bins have to be removed after a certain time as they are a hazard to blind people. If that's the case they are just as much a hazard while they are out waiting to be emptied and if a blind person was injured by bumping into one then it could be argued that the council were culpable for insisting on their use.
A bit like the reason put foreward for fencing the fountain in the Mercury today - if it's a hazard when people are watching the screen then it's a hazard full stop. Or if it's not a hazard when there's something routine on the screen then it's not a hazard when there's something interesting on the screen.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
ray
rubbish bags or wheelie bins should never be on the pavement at any time.
the council gives clear instructions that all rubbish must be placed just inside the boundary of the property, but do nothing about enforcing it.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
Not appropriate for some properties Howard, and certainly not on the side of the road where I live - all houses have about 10 steps up to the path from our gardens, if we left the rubbish at the bottom of the steps it wouldn't get collected.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i almost forgot, this is the scene that greeted me this morning when i picked up my bottle of milk.
in fact that shot is the same every thursday and many days in between.
should we enact the big society thing and go and clean it up for them?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
howard;
i realise where your coming from but its also about 2 other things
better education on dumping rubbush/putting it out to early
keeping the local area a nice place to work/visit
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
nothing to do with education keith, just people that do not care what mess they make as they will not have to clear it up.
when they put their badly wrapped rubbish on the pavement making it impossible for people or buggies to pass they can look at the rest of us that use good quality bags and keep them off of the pavement and see that the seagulls do not attack them.
the only education required is an on the spot fine.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
maybe thats part of the educatio howard
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
st davids is like it on fridays,it looks terrable.
