Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Should note that secretary of state did not actually give approval, but chose not to call it in for closer scrutiny, not quite the same thing.
Also it was never designated a brownfield site, it was stipulated at inception that the workers camp would have no ecological long term impact on the area.
Arte et Marte
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I refer you to the original post of this thread. I was on planning when the Channel tunnel was built there were lots of heated discussions .The channel workers site was to be at Aycliffee however Farthingloe was sacrificed but it was to return to its former glory.The history of Farthingloe is very interesting reading.Once you start building on the ANOB you weaken the case .Developers will make promises but they are in it for the money.Some Councillors were taken in by the carrot.I did not vote for the increase in numbers for the site which went against the Officers recommendation.
My concern is where will the children who live in these houses go to school?More cross town travelling.
Going back to the ANOB the valleys leading into Dover are beautiful why destroy what we have.
Yes it would be lovely to have improvements made to the Western Heights but not at any price.
Our MP was a young lad when all these former discussions took place.Some of us have long memories.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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sue as I see it it was a brown field site of sorts.the hut accomadation was put on a certain kind of building block,in whitch are now over grown with grass and managed by the land owner who ever that may be.to satete further more that its returning back to what it was.
as for kids going to school there are already 3 double deck bus fulls that pass there every morning and every afternoon,coming from and going towards Folkestone.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Brian I was referring to primary schools.Do you realise how much land will be required for all those houses and a retirement home.The channel tunnel workers camp did not use all the green open space.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Yes they promised to enlarge White Cliffs primary College for the Arts When I repeatly asked where the school facilities would be provided that was the response.
Karlos- Location: Dover
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http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/scheme-for-hundreds-of-homes-102453/
Plans to build more than 600 homes in a beauty spot have been stopped.
Two judges at the Court of Appeal have quashed the application for 521 homes and a 90-apartment retirement village at Farthingloe near Dover, an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.
Lord Justice Laws and Lord Justice Simon allowed the appeal against last December’s judicial review on the basis that Dover District Council’s planning committee failed to give legally adequate reasons for granting permission.
This had been contrary to an officers’ recommendation which had criticised the density, layout and design of the scheme.
Council planning officers recommended a reduction in the number of homes to 375 and changes to the density and design to protect the most sensitive part of the landscape.
This was ignored by both the developer, China Gateway, and the planning committee, says CPRE Kent, which had brought the case to court.
The group’s chairman Christine Drury said: “This is excellent news.”
In his judgment, Lord Justice Laws acknowledged that it was “an unusual case” and that “the scale of the proposed development is unprecedented in an AONB.”
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Excellent news.
Dover (pop c.30K) does NOT need increase of 20% in housing stock in AONB as breeding boxes for London over-spill.
Perhaps DDC should concentrate on providing services for the population already here rather than encouraging even more people to move into area to use our over stretched services.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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What's the situation with building on the Western Heights? Is anything going to happen there?
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Yes excellent news. We have more than enough houses already planned within the district.
Another DDC disaster.
Jack of Hearts
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I do not think the same we needed them to build the house,s it would have help with funding to keep the western highs group going.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I didn't see this development as London over spill particularly the retirement village. Not good news for the WHPS who would have got a substantial sum of money to spend on the fortifications on the Western Heights.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I think all the house building at Whitfield Connaught Barracks plus.some of the villages is enough.The Farthingloe VAlley will be spoilt for ever.Watch this space if it is allowed Dover will join with Capel,and there are several developments going on at Capel.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I didn't see this development as London over spill particularly the retirement village. Not good news for the WHPS who would have got a substantial sum of money to spend on the fortifications on the Western Heights.
Whilst the youth of Dover are doing their bit to save us from the curse of having an aging population, by producing the second highest teenage pregnancy rate in Kent, and Charlie is talking the usual platitudes about 'providing homes for the youth of Dover', one wonders exactly who will be buying/renting the extra the extra 600 dwellings at Farthingloe, never mind about the proposed 2000 at Whitfield, and not forgetting the Connaught Barracks site, without a massive influx of Londoners bringing some of the 'diversity and vibrancy' which Dover District does not have (and which some dare to say makes it still a nice place to live in)
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Excellent news from my point of view,
Arte et Marte
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so more bad news then,that dosent surprise me in the least.
so cpre have won the day and a 100 or so jobless will remain jobless,whps have lost out on major funding yet again.what ever next,ditz being cancalled rabbit hutches being built up at canught barracks and else where.
dover will be a transit ghost town before long.
Guest 1848- Registered: 11 Sep 2016
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Just to get some facts right, the Western Heights Preservation Society never has been the intended recipient of any money from the developments, it would go to a new Trust set up by the main site owners (DDC. EH. Home Office) and the involvement by WHPS after then is unknown....
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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I thought whps would have a say in how its spent.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Just seen our MP on TV, talk about the kettle calling the pot black.What is this about denying the young people of Dover homes.We have as I already stated homes being built at Whitfield,Connaught Barracks Capel and Deal.I see homes advertised for sale no shortage .
one girl interviewed said she could not afford to buy a house .The homes planned at Farthingloe were not going to be cheap .We still have brown sites available .
There was not going to be a new primary school built .
I voted against the proposal as my question re the school was not answered .
The number of houses was against officers advice .Im not surprised that CPRE appeal was allowed .The carrot is not always the answer .
Sorry our MP was the arrogant one .
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Agreed Sue Charlie does come out with some odd statements sometimes, these were always going to be for sale and not used to cut council waiting lists. Even though we live in an area of low house prices youngsters locally have no chance of getting on the housing ladder unless they have a high paying job in London.