Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#21
kieth,thats a load of tosh,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#22
it is just a mish mash brian, i cannot work out what the figures are - maybe someone else will explain to me if you cannot?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#23
howard ,its brits have moved to,a bit like them coming here for the same reason.of course there is the oap element as well.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#24
there lies the rub brian it does not state how many retired people have upped sticks and taken their money to sunnier climes.
it goes without saying that they will not take a job off a local, drive down wages or claim benefits.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#25
howard,we are probably looking at retierd persons ,there again there could be a lot of people working as well.evan though the article dose not confirm this.but you can be assured that spain and southern france will hold the most pensioners.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#26
Cyprus has quite a lot of Brits too - I've just come back from spending Christmas with my (older) brother there and they even have their own paper - the Cyprus Mail - news about Cyprus and Britain, in English of course.
Roger
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#27
Bulgarian and Romanian immigration hysteria 'fanned by far-right'
Former Bulgarian foreign minister says talk of surge of eastern Europeans into UK is politically motivated and highly unlikely
Passengers depart for western Europe at the central bus station in Sofia, Bulgaria. Photograph: Vassil Donev/EPA
Bulgaria's former foreign affairs minister has criticised the "mass hysteria" surrounding the immigration debate driven by the "far-right".
Nikolay Mladenov, who was Bulgaria's foreign affairs minister until last spring, said claims of a sudden influx of Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants to Britain in 2014 were "politically motivated".
Mladenov, who is now the UN Special Representative for Iraq, told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme that the media had done well to try to set right such suggestions, which "show that this whole mass hysteria, which has been fanned out by some media outlets in the UK, has been purely politically motivated and that there is no reason to believe that the UK will be swarmed by waves of immigrants from Bulgaria".
He added: "I think it's been entirely driven by the far-right political agenda."
Mladenov said the free movement of citizens had reciprocal benefits for host country and guest resident. "A number of people, yes, have moved and they contribute to the development of your economy, just as much as a number of Britons have found Bulgaria as a base to settle down and they contribute to our economy."
He added: "Most countries have benefited from open borders and from trade and from development in the European Union, so I don't think we should be searing of that - we should actually be encouraging it and make sure that those who are qualified find jobs and contribute."
Fears that hundreds of thousands of eastern Europeans would enter the UK when immigration restrictions were lifted on 1 January have dominated the right-wing press recently, although to date no such surge has occurred.
Full story Guardian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#28
and the far right you mention still keep getting there numbers wrong.
its 27 million and not 29 or 30 million as they keep trying to tell us,if that happened there will be two [2] empty countrys with no income.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#29
And don't forget the 1.7 million Brits in Australia, 700,000 in the USA and 265,000 in the UAE. They make room for quite a few more foreigners to come in. Since 2008, 120,000 more Brits have gone to Dubai.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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#30
I dont know why everyone is panicking over all this topic. They are certainly People coming but not to a huge amount as forecasted by so many experts.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud. Maya Angelou ☺🌈🌄🌌🌏🌍🌎
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#31
Bit early to tell really.
Roger
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#32
The only way to reverse this invasion it to vote ukip, all immigrants will be require to have work permit and health insurance , the low skilled mass immigration forcing down the wages of the working class ,will not get permits to work in the uk
The only uk citizen enjoying free movement of labour in the EU are the better of pensioners and high earning professional.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#33
A strong Ukip vote at the general election will for sure hand Labour an absolute majority by default. But by all means vote Ukip at the European elections later this year.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#34
that is not the truism it was a year or two back peter, the blue exodus is now overshadowed by the number of former reds joining them.
why else would our resident reds be so keen to belittle them if only the blues were losing votes?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#35
just following the last post
The reds are always going to be the largest party
UKIP are just a protest party
soon forgotten
I dont think they will make much difference come the general election
they may well split votes
but thats not winning
and they should be seen or even do better
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#36
vote ukip and get sod all,vote tory and get ripped off,vote lib/dem and get limp lettuce.and that dosent leave much dose it..................come on you reds.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#37
how cynical you are brian, not that i blame you but do you see one nation ed leading us out of the wilderness to the promised land?
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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#38
well there is no party to be trusted in any country let alone UK. The Germans screwed it up, so the french and looking at how many changes been done under cameron sands ;) some are good, most are bad. They should do as the belgians did run a country without a government that be well cheap. Imagine saving all these wages LOL
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud. Maya Angelou ☺🌈🌄🌌🌏🌍🌎
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#39
what alternative is there howard,there is that puritan gezzer who gave chaz the chop.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#40
If the great British puiblic did as you suggest Brian, then we would end up even worse than when they left Government.
They have accepted and admitted that they got somethings wrong - but they were the ones that crashed the car and so are in denial about the debt they left, which is why we are having these austerity measures.
Roger