Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not your worry I have been in Dover from 1942 and born here so If I did not care I would not be here and been a cllr on five parish,s and went for MP 3 times. There is nothing any of us can do but wait the site will open to the public when it does.Been waiting now over 40years so one more will be OK if I am still here.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Complacency by some others old and new such as that shown by ex- councillor Vic Matcham is why Dover is in the state it is in now.
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Guest 1935- Registered: 2 Dec 2016
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Vic Matcham wrote:Not your worry I have been in Dover from 1942 and born here so If I did not care I would not be here and been a cllr on five parish,s and went for MP 3 times. There is nothing any of us can do but wait the site will open to the public when it does.Been waiting now over 40years so one more will be OK if I am still here.
This is not about you and other people are entitled to express an opinion, even if you don't like it!
So I hope we can go back to what is important to Dover.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Who said it was about me.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:The Knave has played his joker but is wildly out as it is well known in the construction industry that the contractor was chased away they didn't walk away. There are legalities involved so not right to post anything in detail here but the truth will all come out in the fullness of time.
Incidentally what is a tit tat? I am thinking it is an English version of one of those silly little mints that our American friends inflict upon us.
Kier Construction PLC with revenues of over £3bn was chased away from DTIZ. I have heard it all now! Was it the Russians or the Mafiosa?
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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I think all us Dovorians want to see the DITZ because Dover is being left behind, even if it does well(which is probable at this time)
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Guest 1935- Registered: 2 Dec 2016
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Posts 575 & 585 highlight that the problem is rumour and supposition because of the DDC failures in transparency, communication and honesty.
This takes us back to the start of the thread and the original reason for the public meeting in 2014.
All of this because the DDC are trying to deliver something they are just not competent to do, so they fudge it and things continue to go wrong.
The truth will never be told as those involved have too much to lose.
Unfortunately the same motley crew, who have failed to deliver DTIZ, are going on to the DWDR.
It's only going to get worse for Dover and its people.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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What rubbish, it is moving along and forward be it slowly Dover is on the up at last .
Captain Haddock
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Vic Matcham wrote:What rubbish, it is moving along and forward be it slowly Dover is on the up at last .
And here's a picture of Vic leading Dover's recovery in his old army uniform!
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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"Dover is on the up at last" ......That must be the most misleading comment on here.
I think Vic must live in a different Dover to the rest of us, even when St James eventually gets finished the town will still be nothing like the vibrant town it was back in the 1960's and later.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Meanwhile in Deal at least we are doing something to improve our tourism offer (dread phrase).
https://www.betteshanger-park.co.uk/beast.html
This should pack them in! How much have we now 'invested' in Betteshanger to provide a road to nowhere where the local youth can practice handbreak-turns? How many tens of millions of Coalboard Regeneration (sic) and Lottery Funding?
Meanwhile the £7.5m Visitor Centre is coming along nicely.
Showcasing renewable energy (a room with a windmill and a video showing that Al Gore film) and a mining museum containing a couple of miner's lamps plus test tubes full of sputum samples showing the onset of various lung diseases, but I suspect not mentioning that Betteshanger was the only pit in the UK to
strike during the Second World War.
I wonder if it's going to be twinned with the proposed Quisling Museum opening shortly in Norway?
(While Europe was in flames and men, women and children were dying the colliers reason for striking was over allowances for working a difficult seam because the conditions changed from week to week. Bastards.)
Can't wait.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think the town is finally heading in the right direction probably for the first time since the Luftwaffe stopped visiting. Town centres everywhere have to adapt mostly by contracting and/or allowing retail units to be modified for residential use. The multi screen cinema will pull in people from Deal(assuming they don't re-open the Regent as a multiplex) and from Folkestone who would normally go to Ashford. If the bid for dosh is successful then the well thought out plans that we know about in this link will go along way towards regeneration.
http://www.dovertownteam.co.uk/Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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and here's a picture of Howard, reading a book, as he brings up the rear of the procession!
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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The House of commons has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in the Parliament building this Christmas season. We have been informed that this is not for any religious reason. They simply have been unable to find Three Wise Men in the building.. Although a search had been widened to include the Greater London area, a Virgin was unable to be found either
There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.....
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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christine.a wrote:The House of commons has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in the Parliament building this Christmas season. We have been informed that this is not for any religious reason. They simply have been unable to find Three Wise Men in the building.. Although a search had been widened to include the Greater London area, a Virgin was unable to be found either
There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.....
And 'I saw three ships go sailing by' is not so much a carol but a 2016 version of the Spithead Review?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Howard
I''m hopeful you are correct, but watching things develop(or not) I see a Town centre struggling to survive, and If the DITZ does well the town centre will be the cost.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Not necessarily Keith as we know at the moment when a business wants to rent/lease a unit they have to take the whole building making it impossible for anyone starting from scratch to make it viable. His Worship the Mayor instigated the idea of purchasing the buildings with the plan to convert the upper floors into flats making the shop rental much more attractive to budding entrepreneurs. As I said earlier there will be more footfall from cinema goers from outside of pagan Dover that will pass the shops on their way from the Train Station and main bus stops.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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"pass the shops on their way from the Train Station and main bus stops."
That is assuming they do not come by car, also most of those who do use public transport will not go shopping before or after their visit especially if they go via Pencester Gardens.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Then theres our little cinema hope that survives
I hope the initiative in town centre with DTC comes to something
but as I put on my f book page its not at nil cost and its hopes at the mo
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Then theres our little cinema hope that survives
I hope the initiative in town centre with DTC comes to something
but as I put on my f book page its not at nil cost and its hopes at the mo
Just a thought, and I don't want to pick on anybody in particular, but are all our councillors semi literate?
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