Dover's own version of 'shameless'.
- 31 July 2017 19:30332004No need to worry, we will pay again for an expensive PR company to sort out this latest unnecessary mess.
The sooner the inept and waste of money local council is disbanded the better.Guest 1713, Reginald Barrington, Brian Dixon and 1 more like thisGuest 1713, Reginald Barrington, Brian Dixon and Jan Higgins like this - Keith Sansum1
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31 July 2017 21:05332008Post 12 is correct but the independents and tories joined forces to be the administration because they had the majority vote there were 6 vacancies as not enough candidates and so co opted 6 more indies/tories.
Since this time indies have resigned, split from the tories, and we have a very shaky run Town council.
Many there just for the name Cllr before there name, others for the social side, then we know the rest.
So hopefully if you don't wish to have the same councillors next time round in 2 years you should be organising alternatives now. Otherwise this will all continue to be debated after the next election in 2 years.
A quickie on the car, I'v read the report on here and P Wallace who may well be against the mayor having a car? not only did he not explain an alternative, but he didn't move anything at the meeting.
His labour group moved a cheaper option of a leased car.
And the discussion was based around a leased car or a brand new one which the mayor wanted brought outright.
So whilst Cllr Wallace may have been against the car in total, I did ask him for him for his
alternatives with no reply, and he didn't move any motion on the car, which if he was so passionate on this, surely he would have got in first?
His group did.
Seems the labour were solid apart from Cllr Wallace.
Of course i'm sure at the next election we will be faced with the same candidates and people will get typing against them, even though they allowed them to be elected.ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Jan Higgins
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31 July 2017 21:33332010Unless the mayor is going to an official function in full robes I do not see why he needs an official car plus chauffeur, surely he could drive himself like anyone else would have to do.
Surely his expenses should be enough to cover any time he needs to hire a taxi.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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31 July 2017 21:49332011I think there would be a security issue around the chain(not the mayor lol)) costs/insurance
the chain isn't cheap(couldn't get one in poundland?)Jan Higgins likes thisALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Jan Higgins
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31 July 2017 22:16332012I understand that Keith but most if not all vehicles can carry two people or more.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 31 July 2017 22:22332013Keith I did post a comment similar to yours .The point everyone is missing is the importance of the chain .I always had to have some one with me because of the importance of the chain .Can you imagine the outrage if the chain went missing..There is no point in having a Mayor if you don't respect the chain .Im surprised at Peter .If you want people to look at Dover in a good light then these petty issuies need to be ironed out out
- Captain Haddock
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1 August 2017 00:24332014Keith Sansum1 wrote:
So whilst Cllr Wallace may have been against the car in total, I did ask him for him for his
alternatives with no reply, and he didn't move any motion on the car, which if he was so passionate on this, surely he would have got in first?
His group did.
Seems the labour were solid apart from Cllr Wallace.
The problem is, as you well know Keef, that our friends in Labour have pre meeting meetings at which 'the party line' is decided and their inevitable block vote has little if anything to do with any debate as heard in public.
FWIW on the Conservative side at DDC (and all respect to Paul W on this) whilst agenda items are certainly discussed by those who turn up to any group meetings, I have never known pressure to be put on individuals to vote in any particular way. This has lead to some 'close votes' and occasionally a certain councillor being one of the few and occasionally the only councillor voting for example against daft motions on fracking and live animal exports or the lunatic plan to borrow £200 million to 'invest' in commercial property!
Personally, with the concept of 'representative democracy', where we are voting for people who hopefully have both the time and the ability to make decisions on our behalf, I tend to vote for people who will take the time to weigh up matters (things are rarely black and white) and then come to a considered decision rather than merely following a party line or merely reflecting the populist views of the majority of the electorate.
It would appear that there are a majority of the electorate of North Deal who think upon the same lines."We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 21 August 2017 18:10333018And to think that people complain when our Mayor just wants a measly new car.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/18/bridge-940m-bill-boris-johnsons-mayora-vanity-projects-garden-bridge-routemaster-bus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other - Captain Haddock
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25 August 2017 10:27333104Another ambassador for Dover in the 'nationals'! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4821158/Loudmouth-22-called-judge-p-y.html"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 25 August 2017 14:20333110Blimey. If this is worthy of national news, stop the world, I want to get off....
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
25 August 2017 15:09333112that news stoty is a few days old,