Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Alex's in answer to your questions. post 19
People vote for them selves, there interests.
If you're in the public sector, or your business enjoys receiving taxpayers money to support that business, you will probably support or grovel to the party that's going to open the wallet to you . see post 9
The voting issue we spoke about in earlier posts, is the mechanism of democracy that needs to be upheld, a mechanism denied to the common man in the history of this country.
Politicians love you not going to use your vote, its easer for them if the numbers are smaller.
Ukip is a small party that's funded by the members. Not the rich ,or rich unions,
Ukip needs to organise the same as the big parties, regarding elections, to get the message over, very difficult if your funds are limited.
I am a member of ukip, but have never been contacted by the local party to help out; maybe even they find me to radical.
I was not having a go at you for not voting for a political party.
I was having a go at you for not using your rights to attend a polling station.
PS.Good luck with all your other fights and projects
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I would like to point out that Pam Brivio is a Red not a Tory as stated in 10
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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OK, Sheila, Pam is red, not blue. Someone got the dye wrong.
Keith, regards the EU, there are various good reasons why people may oppose Britain being a member of it.
UKIP use a variety of common sense explanations, with which one can only agree.
There's also another reason: the EU uses the twelve star symbol.
But the Twelve Star Crown has a biblical meaning, as stated in the Book of Revelations.
The EU has tried to claim almighty-like power over many nations, and this makes it a Babylon-associated entity that challenges the High City, which is the only Almighty Government.
On Earth, we're supposed to each govern/administer our own affairs as individual nations, as equal nations.
The less people try to form almighty-like forms of government, the better. The less we have of mortal "heads of state", the better.
The less a person or establishment tries to be "almighty", the better.
Because it makes us aware as individuals and as Society that we all depend on the Divine, and are recipients of that which has been created and is given to us daily.
The Our Father prayer explains this clearly, as taught by Jesus Christ.
British Party is by definition British and Christian, and some of its espoused views are not in line with UKIP policy, such as the refusal to recognise a private family as head of our Government, head of our State, head of our Army, head of the English Church.
If I did join UKIP, and stood as a candidate, I would inevitably have views that I uphold, but do not correspond with UKIP policy.
I don't want to harm UKIP and its chances of combating the Austerity Doom and Gloom parties also known as LibLabCon.
So I keep a respectful distance from the sidelines.
As you know yourself, I've been writing that UKIP is Britain's second party even when it was still the fourth party.
I knew in 2010 that UKIP would soon come second in a by-election, when the vast majority of people would have laughed it down as a wild dream.
In fact, UKIP did later come second in a parliamentary by-election, and since then are to all effect the second most voted party in by-elections in recent months.
But the day will have to come, Keith, when UKIP choose yes or no to accept the Christian Faith as our Country's sole official Faith.
And one more point: if a party officially represents Britain, or the United Kingdom, then it must NEVER cease to uphold this value, and must treat all the constituent countries of Britain as equal.
I will NEVER renege the Union Flag.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Our Union Jack is both British and Christian by definition.
Brian Dixon
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alex,have you a bee in your bonnet.calm down you will be able to vote again in a couple of years.you might be able to vote for the English party or the edf,bmp or utwit.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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LOL - so I am not the only one saying that Brian. Alexander you are rather excitable.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i cannot work out the link with christianity and the union flag.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just been taking a close look at Kent's results.
What a massive failure by Labour..... To think that they once actually controlled the council for a few dreadful years and now can only get to third party status behind a protest party!!!
Sad that Dover Constituency has the ignomy of sending 4 of Labour's 13 councillors to Country Hall.
Keith Sansum1
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A few comments here,
Alexander;
You have said in previious threads that you have a strong religious belief(and thats great) when i asked you about not forcing that view on others, you agreed, but you continue to push that, with your view that UKIP must also believe
and realy UKIP (although you dont vote for them) will have to stand up to tough scrutiny on the many cuts that wil have to be made over the coming months/years.
BARRYW
I expected nothing else from you, the KCC elections (an the elections across the country) were as predicted a disaster for the tories,and im glad we havnt got the tories representing us at county hall from Dover town
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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What's even more worrying for Labour is that the Conservative votes in total were more than Lbour I believe.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Labour is on a rebuild, where as the tories are in self denial and ripping each other apart,
The mouse made the big mistake of taking on UKIP with the name calling, and it certainly helped those thinking whether to vote UKIP or not.
Theres a lot of work to be done both whilst UKIP are popular, and in the next 2 years, thats if the tories don't rip themselves apart before that
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Audere est facere.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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martin
the tories are hurting,,,,,,,,,, they know UKIP has damaged them across the country
had they not lost seats to UKIP in kent this thread would be so different.
The mouse has no idea which way to turn
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Martin - look at it in perspective. People realise that Labour have been a total disaster for this country every time we have been cursed by a period of government by them. The Conservatives, defending a high tide mark, were on to a loser anyway. Blimey, Labour did worse than they did under Foot in the equivalent election.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Yes, how true. The Conservatives are at their pique.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all the usual blandishments from the party hacks trying to put spin on their results, from being a one party state in maidstone, others have come along and reduced things to a nearly level debating chamber.
if ukip had bothered to leaflet dover town then i think they would have had another councillor.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Spin it how you like, you took one hell of a beating. Dover and Deal has spoken and will continue to do so in 2015. UKIP will force Cameron to lurch to the right and hasten the demise of the coalition , of course Labour lost?
Audere est facere.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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funny you gain seats from the tories in dover town and deal
and you still in barryws eyes losing?#
ukip also took 17 seats and well done to them
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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throwing insults at people hardly helps your cause barry, we all remember the "nasty"party.
dave done the same with ukip voters and we know how that ended.
