howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 February 2011
19:2092528
the poster there extolls the virtues of dover pride and the artistic fraternity.
the problem is that all three windows are empty.
at least the pigeon seemed to appreciate it.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
13 February 2011
20:5492533Many people have passed the opinion that Dover Pride is an oxymoron.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
13 February 2011
21:0292534Not sure of the oxy but the second part seems to fit
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
13 February 2011
21:1092536you are being so cynical peter and ross.
dover pride have a mission statement, what more could one ask for?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
14 February 2011
08:0492548howard,maybe some pride in dover.you know its all mouth and no trouses quango.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 February 2011
08:2392554Dover Pride is a partnership of business, local and regional organisations and the people of Dover. Their aim is to make the town a great place to live, work and visit.
The partnership aims to support the long term improvement and regeneration of Dover and renew a sense of pride in our community.
The Dover Pride strategy sets out a vision for Dover with a programme of action to deliver the following objectives:
Transform community aspirations
Enhance learning, skills and enterprise
Realise the potential of port expansion
Generate and attract new business activities
Raise the town's profile as a visitor destination
Strengthen the community and reduce deprivation
Restructure the town and improve the environment
Upgrade transport links and accessibility
Dover Pride is involved in a number of key projects aimed at making the town a better place for residents and visitors:
White Cliffs Business Park
Dover Waterfront
St James / Dover Town Investment Zone (DTIZ)
The River Dour
Buckland Mill
Connaught Barracks
Coombe Valley
A number of exciting projects have already been completed with the help of partnership planning and funding.
These include:
Station Approach
Sea Sports Centre
HST Dover Priory
Seafront
Dover Visuals
Illuminations
Public Realm
The Partnership consists of:
South East England Development Agency (SEEDA)
The Homes and Communities Agency (HCA)
Kent County Council
Dover District Council
Dover Town Council (DTC)
Dover Harbour Board (DHB)
The local MP
East Kent LSP
Eastern and Coastal Kent Primary Care Trust
Arts Council England
English Heritage
Dover District Chamber of Commerce
Viking Recruitment
Government Office for the South East (GOSE)
South Eastern Railway
Admitted Brian, that's a lot of mouth, also a big pair of trousers me thinks.
Roger
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
14 February 2011
09:1292557Nice long list there Roger but from Howard's picture the building frontage does nothing to promote a feeling of pride in Dover.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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14 February 2011
09:4292560Roger I think that is probably over-selling the achievements of Dover Pride..
I see for example that listed amongst the achievements is the Sea Sports Centre. Would love to know what role they played in that. As far as i am aware it would have been a near neglible input if any, but to put it down as one of their 'projects completed' could give the wrong impression. A very big wrong impression.
Howard shows the frontage in the pic above there just the town side of the underpass. And it started off with optimism but the exhibits seemed to get more and more obscure and now there arent any at all. It now looks sad. It would be nice if it could be used showing paintings of Dover both new and old...a permanent exhibition, rather than the obscure arty farty stuff that visitors can see everywhere and anywhere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 February 2011
10:5192569with all that list of agences how can anyone know who has done the most?
the old indoor market is "dover pride" and is bare.
14 February 2011
11:2492572I'll let them have some of my paintings! Even my very worst would brighten the place up. Seriously, why not use the windows as a gallery for anyone who wants to contribute? Even in my limited circle I know of four people who paint.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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14 February 2011
14:0392583The police also know of a whole load of young people who are just itching to unleash their artistic talents on the building.
Perhaps we should let them?
PG.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 February 2011
14:3792585I cannot remember the details, but wasn't the plan for a nursery to move in soon as the Dover Arts people have moved out ??
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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14 February 2011
15:2292587Not to be too picky here but of that list of partners, DTC is only allowed one attendee and they are appointed to it by Dover Pride, SEEDA and the PCT are being phased out and the CoC is hardly in the best of shape. This leaves the loudest voices as EH, DHB and DDC so the last grant obtained was spent on the seafront and the castle. All of the "art" projects have expected major funding from DTC and yet not used Dover artists. The station approach has been on the plans for more years than DP has been in existance.
On their performance so far do they hope to "transform community aspirations" by getting us used to graffiti and charity shops?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 February 2011
15:3792588that seems to sum it up nicely, on a brighter note a couple of people went in earlier with pots of paint.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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14 February 2011
16:0592590Out of 19 directors (why do they need 19???) three are from the private sector. IMHO that balance should be reversed, then we might get somewhere. An initiative such as this needs doers, not placemen.
19 directors is the same number as HSBC has.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,894
14 February 2011
16:2592591Reading between the lines I am beginning to wonder are they a waste of time and a body that could be dismantled without too much loss. This is the first I have ever heard about this quango.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
14 February 2011
16:4592593Dover pride used to be situated in the Area Office now The Gateway .They always had a window display ,also the young lady who used to work for Dover Pride wrote articles in the Dover Express .
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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14 February 2011
17:2292596Dover Pride set out a booklet of their aspirations which feature a cable car nobody wants and a DTIZ dominated by a supermarket in a town already overburdened with them. Most of the other 'developments' are led by their own developers and do not really have a need of DP's lip-service. The river Dour has it's own steering group. Altogether the money going into Dover Pride would be far better spent providing visitor 'attractions' such as (dare I say it?) public toilets.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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14 February 2011
17:3792598The last published minutes of DP board meetings are two years old. There are no accounts available on their website. The board membership has 'conflict of interest' written all over it. Who funds it and what is the money spent on?
Obviously we, the taxpayers, fund it, I mean who writes the cheques?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
14 February 2011
19:4892617Trouble is they have 19 board members - which is about 18 more than they have active staff
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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
