howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#21
first i knew about it's existence was when i saw it in my dental surgery jan, agree paul - david has turned soft, could all change when mr crowley returns.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#22
I wouldn't say I've gone soft but I'm not that bright and things take a while to register with me. Its taken me a long time to realise what others have been saying for years is true.
We try to do our bit to "big up" the town but we are drowning in a mix of apathy and incompetence, it sometimes seems like we're pushing water uphill.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#23
how can you say that with the recent success of the town team and the market david?
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#24
We've had success despite the apathy Howard, the default setting of the people of Dover is despondancy.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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#25
David Little wrote:We've had success despite the apathy Howard, the default setting of the people of Dover is despondancy.
Agree with that, too many people don't want to get their hands dirty to actually do something to help their area. They days of being given everything on a plate a long gone.
Good example is the moans I have seen online from people that the regatta isn't a 'proper' one and where are the fireworks etc... how about they actually do their bit to make it possible for people to have such a free event.....?
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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#26
....or the people that moaned that they should just be allowed into the Drop Redoubt free any time they want cos they are an English Heritage members... what about the people that put endless hours of their own time into making it possible ?

Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#27
Agree entirely Paul
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#28
i do find that many people dwell on dover's past and sometimes glory in its failures. a big example is the carnival where i get told every year about how much bigger and better they were in the past. at one time there were a few major employers in the town that found it worth their while to put money in so there were many more types of floats.
the white cliffs experience is often spoken of with gleeful derision even though it won major design awards, people i have spoken to that visited it were all full of praise.
the white cliffs people often get it in the neck because they don't like livestock leaving their visiting cards on the daily dog walks completely forgetting that without the grazing and the volunteers clearing scrub there would be nowhere to take their dog for a walk.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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#29
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:
the white cliffs people often get it in the neck because they don't like livestock leaving their visiting cards on the daily dog walks completely forgetting that without the grazing and the volunteers clearing scrub there would be nowhere to take their dog for a walk.
Ah yes those who "love" the countryside but object to anything that might get walked in on their shoes, the country smells, tractor hold-ups and early morning country noises are definitely a no no.
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Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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#30
I have commented on this Forum before that the White Cliffs Experience should never have closed. If it had still been there today it would have been a huge tourism asset for the town, particularly now that the castle is closed during the winter months.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#31
i didn't live here in those days but have not heard a bad word about it, the wartime street is fondly spoken of but shipped down to the west country for free and not used there i believe.
when i first moved here the council were trying to close the fountain and replace it with a piece of public art!!
there was a public meeting held over it at a packed town hall and they were persuaded not to despite the event being heavily stage managed.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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#32
It probably closed as it was apparently too static so once it was seen you wouldn't go back... just thing though it 'someone' allowed to have been connected to a modern building over the Painted House and the bathhouse in between....