Dover Library must act

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• Guest 706

  • Registered: 25 Oct 2010
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  11 July 2013     13:51237077
  #1      
  So,I run the gauntlet of the drop outs and drug addicts. Keep my hands off the dirty railings and hope that I don't step in any vomit on the filthy steps. I want a library book
  . Alas,the library seems to have become a drop out centre. I watch as a man tries to roll a joint outside. The wind may blow his precious weed away so he dive inside to the toilet. I glance at the rowdy young people on the computers. Swearing at their unruly children as the they run around shouting. I choose my book and need to use the the toilet. A man barges into the ladies and shouts for his woman asking her what she is doing. "I'm having a f+++++g s++t" was the subtle reply. Imagine having a child in there and hearing that little gem.
  I didn't hang around but felt sorry to see the girls handing out leaflets for the cafe.
  I don't think that I'll be going back in a hurry.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  11 July 2013     14:19237079
  #2      
  the area around the library and museum is a disgrace with the litter and low lifes there.
  
  the library itself is a beacon of excellence with the long list of facilities there and the exhibits from the museum such as the one pictured here earlier today.
  
  a security guard is most definitely needed to deal with some of the behaviour there especially in the computer section.
  
  
  
  

  
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
  • Posts: 23,940
  11 July 2013     19:39237117
  #3      
  the entrance in York street is in better nick,no low lifes,rif raf or crap filled railings.
  
  ps,i wonderd where my door stop went to.
• Andy B

  • Location: dover
  • Registered: 10 Nov 2012
  • Posts: 1,829
  11 July 2013     22:03237131
  #4      
  I see the general area of the market square has made front page of the express.I agree that the area around the library is getting bad,the whole area is getting worse and Policing is at an all time low,never mind police commisioners etc etc,its all getting seriously bad.Coming back to the area around the library,i saw several low lifes sitting around on the steps boozing it up just the other day.The community warden whoever it was,was having a friendly chat with them like they was doing no wrong.Amazingly when i passed by around 30mins later they was still there,the community warden was nowhere to be seen,why didnt he move them on?hasnt he got the power to do it or couldnt he be bothered?
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  11 July 2013     22:21237132
  #5      
  fully agree andy it does come across sometimes that the louts and the police service are facebook friends.
  
  i don't know what the answer is when we are told by the head honchos that people are exercising a lifestyle choice by being repulsive and driving tourists and locals away from the area.
• Guest 937

  • Registered: 12 May 2013
  • Posts: 145
  11 July 2013     22:33237133
  #6      
  Do any DDC Councillors ever take a trip down to the Market Sq. area during daylight hours? What are their views concerning the masses of negative comments on FB Dover Forums etc. regarding Dover and the terrible impression visitors are taking away with them. There is a feeling of utter despair radiating from these sites.
• Guest 944

  • Registered: 16 May 2013
  • Posts: 57
  11 July 2013     23:12237136
  #7      
  I've spent quite a bit of time in the museum and library over the last few weeks while we were setting up the new Bronze Age exhibition (which is a must see by the way). The staff in both are great people and doing their best but....I'm sorry to say all the above posts are spot on. The whole area around the Market Square and the library itself (but not, thankfully, the museum) seems to have become THE place to be for the town's drunks, druggies and low lifes. Forget about "when i passed by around 30mins later they was still there" Andy. I went into the museum one morning, noticing a tramp sitting on the library steps as I did so, and when I came out again that afternoon after a hard day of positioning small gold objects very carefully , he was still there in exactly the same position. He may have moved in the meantime, but it didn't look like it.
  
  If anyone from the council or the police is looking in, PLEASE do something about this. It is really damaging for the town's already battered image, and makes the rest of us wish we lived somewhere else, which is a pity because Dover could be a really great place to live.
  Andrew Richardson
• Brian Dixon

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 23 Sep 2008
  • Posts: 23,940
  12 July 2013     06:58237146
  #8      
  due to the lack of police and a functioning police station with cells what do we expect.the nearest police station with cells is Canterbury,would any one on the forum wish to escort a irate druggie,drunk or low life to Canterbury please put your hands up.
• Guest 714

  • Registered: 14 Apr 2011
  • Posts: 2,594
  12 July 2013     08:11237151
  #9      
   Pauline Stevens wrote:

  Do any DDC Councillors ever take a trip down to the Market Sq. area during daylight hours? What are their views concerning the masses of negative comments on FB Dover Forums etc. regarding Dover and the terrible impression visitors are taking away with them. There is a feeling of utter despair radiating from these sites.

  
  
  Of course they don't Pauline, I recently had a heated exchange on email with a councillor and officer of DDC, they seemed to be implying that the Town Team should be talking to businesses about their litter. It confirms my opinion that DDC is pointless, useless and has a negative effect on the town.
• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
  • Registered: 25 Aug 2010
  • Posts: 23,948
  12 July 2013     08:23237153
  #10      
  David
  I have to say this lol
  if your E Mails to the council are anything like some of the ridicule/abuse on here then im not surprized you got short changed,
  
  that said there are many positives and negatives to this council
  ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
• Guest 714

  • Registered: 14 Apr 2011
  • Posts: 2,594
  12 July 2013     08:34237157
  #11      
  Keith, you advertise your ignorance and stupidity on a daily basis, you have absolutely no idea what the outcome of the exchange was or who they were from.
  
  You say I was short changed yet as usual you don't have the foggiest idea what you're on about.
  
  Who was it that said:
  
  Best to keep quiet and let people think you're an idiot rather than say something and confirm it.
  
  Try thinking ( ) before you type
• Keith Sansum1

  • Location: london
  • Registered: 25 Aug 2010
  • Posts: 23,948
  12 July 2013     08:37237158
  #12      
  Proves my point david
  ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
• Guest 714

  • Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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  12 July 2013     08:46237159
  #13      
  And what was your point?
  
  My point is as usual you don't have a clue what you're talking about, you simply saw what you thought was an opportunity for a cheap shot over an incident that doesn't concern you.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  12 July 2013     09:27237165
  #14      
  ok chaps let's keep to the issue that penny has raised and kindly desist from personal abuse.
• Sue Nicholas

  • Location: river
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 6,025
  12 July 2013     09:36237167
  #15      
  I have reported this many times .I do visit that area as I love the Musuem shop.After I have done my Civic Duty today Meet and Greet important visitors I will report it yet again.
• Jan Higgins

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 5 Jul 2010
  • Posts: 13,931
  12 July 2013     09:44237169
  #16      
  This problem was raised recently on the Dover Local with regard to the members of the youth theatre using the Roundhouse, it really is time something was done. I quote a small section of the original post........
  
  "many teenage members who come to the theatre who have to run the 'gauntlet' of passing through the intimidating drunks who gather in the Market Square, swearing, fighting and generally being quite raucous.........."
  
  http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/threads/intimidating-dover.7775/
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  I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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• Guest 710

  • Registered: 28 Feb 2011
  • Posts: 6,950
  12 July 2013     10:09237171
  #17      
  "The Policeman's Lot
  
  When a felon's not engaged in his employment,
  Or maturing his felonious little plans,
  His capacity for innocent enjoyment
  Is just as great as any honest man's.
  Our feelings we with difficulty smother
  When constabulary duty's to be done:
  Ah, take one consideration with another,
  A policeman's lot is not a happy one!
  
  When the enterprising burglar isn't burgling,
  When the cut-throat isn't occupied in crime,
  He loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling,
  And listen to the merry village chime.
  When the coster's finished jumping on his mother,
  He loves to lie a-basking in the sun:
  Ah, take one consideration with another,
  The policeman's lot is not a happy one!
  William Schwenck Gilbert"
  http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-policeman-s-lot/
  Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  12 July 2013     10:21237172
  #18      
  i may regret asking this tom but why was the coster jumping on his mother?
• Guest 715

  • Registered: 9 Jun 2011
  • Posts: 2,438
  12 July 2013     10:54237174
  #19      
  I have sent a link to this thread to the PCC, hopefully she will look into it.
  Audere est facere.
• Guest 710

  • Registered: 28 Feb 2011
  • Posts: 6,950
  12 July 2013     11:32237179
  #20      
  There are as many arenas of employment
  as there may be circles down in hell
  in each is scope for innocent enjoyment
  and japes and capers more than I can tell
  many a bodger has had his leg pulled
  several butchers made subject of a roast
  sundry shepherds had their eyes wooled
  and they all to chicanery have played host
  
  Not all of what goes on is even humoured
  oft times there is cruelty as well
  great harm's about, as is widely rumoured
  upon this its not so wise to dwell
  as much ribaldry makes usage of stooges
  playing-off folk is where such jests do come
  turning loving carers into infernal refugees
  I ask you,
  who would be a costermongers' mum?
  Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.

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