Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Councillors act on all the evidence put before them.
Iv chaired other council meetings where a solicitor told me she was giving legal advice .
I told her weighing up all the evidence from all the bodies concerned at that point we decided to carry on.
It is only advice and clkrs then have to weigh up everything .
The solicitor was of the opinion that because she had spoken it had to be adhered to
Speaking with her boss who's quite high up within the council now
I explained it all to him and he agreed with me
So sometimes officers can get it wrong .
Another example if you need any
Alexander house as it is now on the Folkestone Road
Before being built was two houses and drug dens
The officers put down to refuse the application for Alexander house to come into being .
I managed to get them to a site meeting at the place .
After all the public /officers /,others giving views
With no new evidence having been told on the Thursday night by officers this will never get permission .
On the Tuesday the then chairman asked the officers how or if they could approve the application
Where by the officer with no new evidence gave reasons for approval !!
And it was approved !!!!
The other thing with councils if you have a lawyer and take the council on your more likely to win !
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
I have recently received a Labour glossy leaflet through my Dover door informing me about two hopefuls representing Deal and Walmer, if that party can not get their promotional leaflets right how on earth are they fit to run a council.
I am not voting because it is the same old ineffectual faces standing, but at the moment there is no conceivable way I would vote for Labour.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Jan
How silly is that
The labour candidates (had you got correct leaflet lol)
Are two unknowns
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
i know the female labour. candidate keith
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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After losing Hartlepool
Looks like Dover labour has no chance
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Guest 4218- Registered: 17 Apr 2021
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Sue, and any other forum readers who are interested, regarding the multiple daily breaches of planning at RAMYAR Public Hand Car Wash, Dover, and Mr Pishtiwan Karim’s lewd verbal behaviour towards me, and unfortunately my one-sided ongoing correspondence with Mr Aziz of DDC over these matters. Still to date Mr Aziz has not answered my questions, and the car wash is still in multiple breaches of its conditions of planning every day. Perhaps I should just post an open letter to Mr Aziz on the Forum, then maybe I might get a response.
Much more heartening was a message I received from Max Caller CBE. I have also now been left with no alternative but to engage the services of the renowned solicitor Richard Buxton, as both myself and my husband can no longer take the toll all this is taking on our mental and physical wellbeing, nor do we feel it is far and reasonable that DDC allows circumstances to continue unsanctioned day after day, which DDC knows full well put such a strain on our mental and physical wellbeing and breach our Human Rights daily.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Jules I have written to Nadeem Aziz and Hopefully he will respond .Im not aware if you have spoken to your DDC councillors.No political bias but one is Labour and the other Conservative .Take your pick .
I did advise Mr Aziz I had seen a video.It was this that has prompted me to write to him .
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I know you mean well, Sue, but surely Mr Aziz should be capable and willing to respond to an issue such as this without prompting from former politicians. Even if he regards it as infra dig to reply personally, then he must have staff to whom he could delegate.
Maybe a call to the Express or Mercury might be the most effective next step. This chap is paid a 6 figure salary to run OUR council. If he can't carry out his duties efficiently, as this situation appears to indicate, then it should be a matter of public interest and concern.
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Guest 4218- Registered: 17 Apr 2021
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Sue, thanks so much for writing to Mr Aziz about this, yes my husband and I have approached both our Ward Councillors. My husband first approached Cllr Hannent about the car wash breaching all its planning conditions last year, I understand Cllr Hannent did talk to Cllr T. Bartlett and Jim McEwen, DDC planning case officer, unfortunately after a number of phone calls and emails by my husband it reached a point where Cllr Hannent stated it was out of his hands. We also contacted Cllr Biggs, who tried to interested, I understand Cllr Biggs raised his concerns in early April about what was happening on the car wash site with Jim McEwen, Diane Croucher and Paul Neagle, to my knowledge he is still trying to get DDC to get these daily multiple breaches of planning stopped, as well as the abuse myself and my husband have to endure, I also understand he was trying to get the “junkyard” vehicles stored on the car wash site without planning permission removed. We also had a couple of emails from Cllr Walkden who stated he had talked to Planning Enforcement team back in mid-April about this matter and specified that the car wash operator must keep within all the conditions of planning as granted.
As we know Mr Pishtiwan Karim, even though repeatedly was told this, chooses to ignore the conditions of planning related to the site, it seems as far as he is concerned planning conditions are for other people, not him, to adhere to.
The site plan drawing clearly states it only allows for the parking of 4 vehicles (2 car-wash parking spaces and 2 parking spaces for vehicles being offered for sale and/or rent), not the 13 junkyard vehicles that are stored there as of today.
All in all, we are where we are now due to DDC not waiting for the Secretary of State’s ruling on the listing status of Castle Hill House back in 2014, and DDC’s failure in the last year, since the car wash reopened, to protect the house and the conservation area from denigration of setting and physical damage, and to protect myself and my husband from harassment, from loss of our residential amenity, to protect our Human Rights and our wellbeing. And council that allows something of this kind to go on for such a protracted period, I believe, could possibly be found guilty of misfeasance and nonfeasance in public office. Unfortunately at the moment it seems only time will tell.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
JulieS, I think you need to consult a solicitor and get them to send a strongly worded letter threatening court action if nothing is done. You have a valid case for damages from both the Council and Mr Karim/ his business.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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JulieS, I think you need to consult a solicitor and get them to send a strongly worded letter threatening court action if nothing is done. You have a valid case for damages from both the Council and Mr Karim/ his business. And of course, indecent exposure is a criminal matter so a report to the police is indicated too.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I don't see why Julie should have to incur legal fees to pursue a matter which appears to be both in the public and her personal interests. A wider public awareness must surely be the next step.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Assuming the court is on her side, she will eventually recover her costs from one or other defendant.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Probably DDC Is aware many can't afford the legal route so sir back .
Use of the local media is a less costly way and sites such as face book does help to highlight it
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Julie's post makes it quite clear that she has already had to resort to legal advice. My point was simply that it was a pity that this dispute had already come to that and might be resolved by other means. In any case, the questions of costs is never that simple. If it came to court (and at the moment, based upon what has been said, I can't see any reason why it should) there is never any certainty that a litigant will recover the full expense of bringing the case.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Like been said shame it has got this far
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Guest 4218- Registered: 17 Apr 2021
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Sue, I don't know if you have had a response to your letter to Mr Aziz re the matter of the ongoing daily breaches of planning happening at the Ramyar Public Hand Car Wash Dover? We have not, so this week I felt compelled to once more write to Mr Aziz about this supplying further evidence of ongoing breaches; to date this email to him has gone un-responded to also, so I feel I have no alternative but to post it below, maybe he will get to see it this way and respond, one can hope!
I cannot tell you how sad this whole matter makes me and how I fear for the future of Dover, I feel this particular issue is the tip of a much bigger iceberg.
DDC is seemingly in total disregard of its residents wellbeing and Human Rights in any shape or form, all of which I find quite staggering, their lack of transparency, their arrogance, their seeming malevolence towards residents that dare to question them and their downright rudeness is beyond comprehension to any fair and reasonable person, when I tell people from outside of Dover what is going on they are truly staggered.
Let alone DDC’s attitude towards listed heritage buildings and conservation areas, that runs so contrary to everything they themselves spout in their new 20 year plan, is off the chart, they say one things because that is what is expected of any right-thinking council, then totally ignore their own words. Unfortunately this matter of the breaches of planning at the car wash, in microcosm, exposes the endemic failings at the heart of DDC and why Dover is where it is today. All I am trying to do is get DDC to uphold their own conditions of planning and safeguard our Human Rights, our mental and physical wellbeing and our right of residential amenity, all things as a residents we should expect a council to do on our behalf.
I have also written once more to Natalie Elphicke MP requesting she writes to Mr Aziz to try and get some action on stopping the said business being allowed to operate in total breach of so many conditions of its planning knowingly, blatantly and intentionally just for their own private gain without the consideration of others and without sanction from DDC. In my letter I also request Natalie Elphicke to officially bring this matter to the attention of Robert Jenrick, I look forward to her response to me regarding this ongoing matter and my requests for help.
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Dear Mr Aziz,
You will never know how heavy my heart is as I write this email to you, I feel so sad not just for myself and my family, but also for the people of Dover, your and DDC's handling of matters relating to the repeated ongoing breaches of planning and the operators’ of the said business repeated offensive actions towards myself and my husband taking place at the Ramyar Public Hand Car Wash Maison Dieu Road Dover are truly saddening and disheartening, and I worry for the future regeneration of Dover, when public governance is run in such a way.
Your and DDC's seemingly wanton refusal to answer my past 4 correspondence emails re this matter and DDC's total lack of transparency is truly staggering.
The facts are simple: the said car wash in Castle conservation area since it opened 14 months ago has been in breach of its planning as granted and still is in multiple breaches of planning every day it has been open so far; DDC has acknowledged that the car wash must adhere to ALL its planning conditions to be allowed to operate. So why are the breaches still being allowed to happen and why is DDC allowing this?
DDC knowingly allowing these breaches to carry on when they know the effect they have on our residential amenity, our Human Rights and our mental and physical wellbeing for me points towards a clear case of possible misfeasance in public office, your and DDC lack of transparency and DDC’s past refusals to answer my multiple Freedom of Information requests only compounds this feeling.
Once more I have attached a few photos as evidence of the ongoing breaches on the said site over the last week (again, please note this is just a small percentage of photographic evidence we have collected over the past week).
Also please note for the formal record, the fabric of the Grade Two Star listed Castle Hill House has now been damaged by a vehicle hitting the fabric of the building for the second time in just over one month, this time by way of vehicle damage to the render of the rear elevation ground floor bay. How many times does damage to this building need to happen before DDC is moved to restrict motor vehicles being allowed to pass next to the cartilage of the rear elevation of Castle Hill House as well as stopping corrosive jet wash spray hitting Castle Hill House and the other adjacent listed buildings? The way things are going, it’s only a matter time before severe damage to this highly important national historic asset occurs, either by airborne corrosive chemical damage to the brickwork and window frames or by direct vehicle damage.
Surely by now it must be apparent to all at DDC that Mr Pishtiwan Karim will never adhere to planning as granted to operate a car wash on the said site as per conditions of planning, and surely it must also be apparent to all at DDC that the said site is not conducive or appropriate for such a business operation, I.E. within a conservation area and adjacent to so many historical assets, let alone within meters of people’s homes?
I hope and pray DDC will finally take action to remedy their past failings re this matter.
Julia Stavrietsky
Castle Hill House
Castle Hill Road
Dover CT16 1QG
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
No I have not received a reply .I find this appalling.Even if the situation cannot Be resolved immediately its good manners to reply .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I have written again
Guest 4218- Registered: 17 Apr 2021
- Posts: 48
Appreciate the update, Sue, and thank you for writing once more to Mr Aziz regarding this matter.
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