Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 January 2009
23:3012192Howard
I disagree with you and Roger...Profit is a dirty word if it can only be achieved by cutting costs, lowering standards at the expense of both the patients and employees and more importantly endangering lives.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
00:0912196marek
the point i was making referred to roger using that phrase about profit as some sort of political point.
shops and businesses only survive on making a profit, public services are very different.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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6 January 2009
07:4312199I still stand by my previous statement.
I'm not sayiing (and I find it difficult to see how any one can genuinely say that I have said that profit is written into any contract) tie profit to a contract, I'm saying that when a contract is written and signed up to, the quality of service (service level agreement) to be provided, has to be written in that contract and if it is a good contract both sides will benefit - a profit for those providing the service and a good job being done, for those buying the service - that's how it should be, but if a good service is not being provided, then the provider must be called in and put it right - and then, yes Marek, profit (if at all costs) is wrong.
Roger
6 January 2009
09:0012211There is a difference between Private profit and Public re-investment. I work for a not for profit organisation, and while our aim is not profit, we have to have commercial sensibilities or we couldn't function and provide what we do. It is a genuine balance, but sharply focusses on the different aims and purposes of different organisations.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
18:4612226bern
that last sentence sounded like a job description for a guardian advertised post.
6 January 2009
22:0712245I've been rumbled.........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 January 2009
22:3212247back to your cotes du rhone bern.
do not forget to knit your own self sufficient yoghurt tonight.
7 January 2009
14:1612287With organic crochet topping!! Hurrah!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2009
11:0412523There is still work out there but you have to go and find it it will not come to you, for the young ones I say go and get a trade then you will find the work and the cash that comes with it, but you will have to work hard for it but it is there might not be in Dover so pack you case like i did and go and fine it.
Vic Matcham.
I would even do it today if i had to and i am 67years old
Brian Dixon
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15 January 2009
20:4312888young people might stand a better chance of getting work if people of retiring age retired a vic.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 January 2009
21:1512893Brian sorry but not true if I stoped work today it would not do nothing to help the young people get work, in the 1980s there was no work just like it is today for welders so I turn round to my family there is no work for me here so I am off overseas and that is what I done till it got better here,I did not like going i had a wife four young ones but we needed the cash, and i was noting going to just wait till work came to me, if I did I would still be waiting today.
15 January 2009
21:5312900Vic is right - young people seeking work are not disadvantaged by older workers, the opposite in fact. Young 'uns need older workers as role models and for support and advice. Older people retiring would not impact a jot on younger peoples chances - the challenge is to motivate younger workers to seek work more effectively.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 January 2009
22:4313016when I have more time i will be asking the schools in Dover if they would like me to come round and talk to the older one about geting a trade and how to find work, and I would do that for free, with over 50years in full time work , there is alot I could teach them about manel work and how to get agood living out of it, if I done it so could anyone.
Vic matcham
17 January 2009
08:4113027Manuel work is risky these days - arrogant DJs end up leaving nasty messages on your phone and you get loads of work as a result.
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18 January 2009
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