Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
I have just seen this on Rightmove. I would have thought that piece of land was more suitable for residential rather than light industrial use being surrounded by housing on 3 sides and the railway on the other.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-33687264.htmlReginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,220
I think 'light industrial' refers to its current use they would need to have planning in place already to sell it as 'for residential'
I think its council land so it would probably be granted.
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Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
Thank you Reginald, I understand now.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,220
I wouldn't want to be living on Stanhope when they start building it would be a nightmare with lorries going up and down!
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Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
Yes, and all the dust and mud. I hope it ends up being family sized homes with garages and parking. I think there is a shortage of good size, well designed, 3 and 4 bedroom family homes in Dover. This sort of accommodation would encourage families to stay in Dover when they out grow the traditional Victorian terrace rather than moving out of the town into Whitfield, River or beyond.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,220
Absolutely, there's a lot of these small pockets of land around and they always want to cram maximum units on but more aestheticsemi's and detached properties bring up the whole feel of an area.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,452
Looks like the expected housing application has finally begun.
19/01025
Land Adjoining 74
Stanhope Road
Dover
CT16 2PR
Erection of 32no. dwellings, BK
formation of new vehicle and
pedestrian accesses,
associated parking and
landscaping
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,452
Previous planning applications for the site
Reference Proposal Decision
CH/2/54/0126 The erection of houses Refused October 1954
CH/2/57/0039 Use of land for education purposes
No objections May 1957
CH/2/64/0075A Erection of 3 lock up garages Approved September 1964
CH/2/73/0327 Provision of a playing field No objections November 1973
DO/78/1071 Renewal of Planning Permission CH/2/73/0327
No objections November 1978
DO/83/1060 Use of land for playing field KCC resolved to carry out April 1985
DO/89/1773 Provision of playing field No objections
89/01773 Provision of playing field Approved June 1990
94/00062 Outline planning application for 29 dwelling residential development
Appeal dismissed May 1994
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,452
3.1.8 The application was considered by planning committee in March 1994 and was
recommended for approval by Officers. However, Members of Planning Committee
resolved to refuse permission and the application went to appeal.
3.1.9 The reasons for refusal were as follows:
1. The proposed development would result in an increase in the concentration of
traffic movements within the vicinity of the site which would be likely to create
additional dangers to users of the highway and be prejudicial to the amenities
currently enjoyed by the occupiers of nearby properties.
2. The proposal would, if permitted, result in the loss of an area of green open
space which currently provides a valuable facility for informal recreation and
which, in view of the adequacy of the housing land supply within the District,
is considered to be undesirable.
3. The site, by reason of its steeply sloping nature, is considered to be unsuitable
for the development as proposed in that it would be likely to give rise to the
movement of substantial amounts of excavated material to the detriment of
the amenities of the locality.
4. The proposal, would if permitted, result in an over-intensive form of
development in a manner detrimental to the amenities of the locality
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- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,220
"Dover Town Council supports the application, subject to the provision of electric vehicle charging points"
Idiots!
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,993
"[includes] parking for 71 vehicles"; I assume their keepers will want to use them on Barton Road and further afield. Which bit of 'single track cul de sac' don't the authorities get?
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,993
According to SJD on Rightmove, the development has planning consent:
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/112811009#/?channel=COM_BUY
"...planning for 32 units - 10 of which are affordable"; the other 22 being like much of CT16 - out of reach for many.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,758
So going by those figures each bare plot costs on an average of £62,500, when you add on the cost of the actual build I doubt even the so called affordable will be that cheap.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,013
I don’t recall that getting planning permission.Problem with access
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AndyPol- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
It did get planning permission but allegedly the owners knew it was so difficult with the anti feeling locally that they simply want to sell it on and leave the problems to someone else!
That's the rumour I heard from a resident in the area
TheThinWhiteDuke- Registered: 7 Jul 2016
- Posts: 342
As a resident, f**k this! So the dozens of objections from the residents of Stanhope, Astley and Danes Court were just conveniently ignored then? The plant vehicles which they used to clear the area that they dragged up Stanhope have already left gouges in the tarmac. It will be chaos in an already chaotic area. It'll be fun during the school run.
AndyPol- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
I feel very sorry for residents, this area is totally unsuitable for building on, but I fear that it will happen.
As usual, it will be a case of "I told you so" when problems occur, would have been nice if DDC had listened to the hundreds of objections before passing it......
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Farthingloe was totally unsuitable for building on in its proposed format. That didn't stop DDC spunking away £300,000 of taxpayers' money appealing the case on China Gateway's behalf. Anybody ever wondered why?
There are a few readers and contributors to this forum who know the answers but you'll wait a long time for an honest response. Beware of planning at DDC. It is not an entity which can be entirely trusted to act for the public good.
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AndyPol- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
I stand corrected, it would appear that planning might not have been given yet, looking at the DDC planning portal
Also, if you click on the link at the start of this post, it states that the property has been removed by the agent....... something odd going on here!?