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- Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,316
14 September 2013 16:45244717Quite often confusion rains when posts are deleted.
Would it be possible, so that we all retain our sanity, that the following could apply:-
1 - If a member deletes a post, a blank appears with a message similar to "Deleted by member".
2 - If the editors delete a post then a message will appear stating the reason, i.e. offensive, libelous etc.
Too often posts disappear, or appear to disappear, for no apparent reason rendering some topics incomprehensible.
Thanks
Terry
Edit - Damn spellcheck. It never reigns when you want it too!Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - 14 September 2013 16:49244718Good idea.
- 14 September 2013 16:53244720I second that
- Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
14 September 2013 16:58244721I third it
Thanks Terry for raising this and I hope your idea gets taken up..-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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------------------------------------------------------------------- - 14 September 2013 17:17244723Alas, the issue of confusion shall remain while we each 'neglect' to include a reference in our posts to the person or post we are responding to.
In the end, which is more troublesome;having to reference/cite each time, or not being able to know what somebody is complaining about?
What if one has composed a post, only to discover that the conversation has moved on before the post appears, or that it is immediately evident that one has got the wrong end of the stick?
What if one has posted something earnest and detailed, but on the wrong thread?
It may be that we see here such instances as I mention just as much, or more often, than what is the issue under discussion in this thread.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
14 September 2013 17:27244726Referring to your last sentence Tom, when a post is deleted it often makes subsequent posts a nonsense as we do not know what those later posts refer to.
Nine times out of ten I can work out who is replying to what but it is not always as easy as it could be.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
14 September 2013 18:22244732I fourth thatALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 14 September 2013 18:49244742not sure it is of practical benefit as the post would still be gone and no-one would know the contents.
- 14 September 2013 21:54244756May be we will need to apply the FOI Act?
- Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
14 September 2013 21:56244757Howard is that a polite way of saying nothing will change.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 14 September 2013 22:04244760Nothing to do with me jan, my computer skills would be trumped by a 10 year old russian kid.
i am limited to turning on a computer, typing something then in later years learning how to copy and paste, posting links and uploading photos. - Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
15 September 2013 07:31244766Howard, you are ahead of me in computer skills, I have yet to upload a photo.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 15 September 2013 07:38244768I cannot see a problem with Terry's suggestion. It happens on other sites where comments have been removed for various reasons.
- 15 September 2013 08:37244770Why don't we just have a set of rule if you over step you will be deleted
If your deleted 3 time of you go for a month ?
Plenty of low grade forums if you want the wild west .
Fight room is a good one. - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
15 September 2013 10:09244784then people would moan when others are deleted as happened before
the moderators are in a no win situationALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 15 September 2013 10:18244787Keith Bibby wrote:Why don't we just have a set of rule if you over step you will be deleted
If your deleted 3 time of you go for a month ?
Plenty of low grade forums if you want the wild west .
Fight room is a good one.
Oh yeah! I can see where this one's leading, when do you suggest the cane is introduced or write 100 lines for non PC offensive posts.
It just gets better.
Why not resurrect the post you both objected to and open it up for discussion?
P.S. Howard I sent copies of the Capel Skate park opening to mum. She says thank you and went on to remark how Capel was changing from her days there. - 15 September 2013 10:54244788I do get the impression you don't like me much Amanda ?
Why so aggressive ,if you don't like my politics that's ok.
I am happy to listen to an alternative view with out the nastiness' - 15 September 2013 11:13244789Yes, lots of other places are peppered with 'comment deleted because...', but a moments thought would surely reveal that those other places are not in the same league/class as this Forum, or any other Community Centred round-table news'n'views format.
-The minute the allowable content here became codified much of the Forum's posts would contain argy-bargy over whether the 'laws' are being correctly applied. Howard, for it is he in the main, would go from being 'the voice of reason/school-bus conductor' to 'judge-jury-executioner' all rolled into one. On the whole the current overriding expectation that we are all adults and should know where the line is drawn works 999.9 times in every thousand.
-Self-deletion can occur for many, many, many reasons, and if each time the same notification is shown in it's stead we all would be none the wiser as to quite why the deletion has occurred.
Yes, I agree that on the very rare occasions when a post is self-deleted, and when it has been commented upon, those comment tend to 'dangle' and their sense is lost - such is life. Consider the occasions when a member storms-off in the huff (high dudgeon, is a lovely phrase, but that is by-the-by) and 'demands' that all their comments and photographs be removed...what then?
This issue hit-home to me once recently. When somebody posted a link to their own spoof video, cruelly mocking something local that (as far as I am able to tell) richly deserved mocking. That member had second thoughts, and the rest of that particular thread was about what the deleted link could possibly have been. The matter was resolved by somebody posting another link to the 'highly amusing' video, but for a little while I was ever so slightly irked - and yet I have no grounds for asserting that 'I' should not be made to feel that way - such is life.
Finally,
This being more 'club' than truncheon it is always possible to enquire of either commenter;they who post & delete and they who address the now deleted post, as to what happened. Let us not get all uppity and demand or expect that what happens here differs materially from face to face encounters, bits of all conversations between others can be lost to a third party, not much of which was ever worth knowing. Things can stay as they are or get much worse. Thank you.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 15 September 2013 11:14244790Nothing wrong with a good canning Keith B, so long as it is consensual. Why aree you so touchy?
- Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
15 September 2013 13:39244802Tom Austin wrote:Yes, lots of other places are peppered with 'comment deleted because...', but a moments thought would surely reveal that those other places are not in the same league/class as this Forum, or any other Community Centred round-table news'n'views format.
-The minute the allowable content here became codified much of the Forum's posts would contain argy-bargy over whether the 'laws' are being correctly applied.
Tom, I belong to an excellent glass forum which has a far larger membership than here it is also a very specialised and extremely friendly "club" and they always explain why a post has been deleted with no problem.
As for your second point the "laws" as you put it would be the same as they are now and I doubt there would be any more "argy-bargy" than there is now between us all.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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