howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
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new this was comming,what with all the cut backs etc.but saying we have to wars as such in the last 10 years or so,iraq [twice] and afganastan.
Jan Higgins
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I am going to be contentious but if this means we will not be fighting other countries wars and 'peace keeping' for them and our forces do not get killed and maimed then good, we might also save some money as a side issue.
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Brave comments, Jan !
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Keith Sansum1
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jan;
understand where your coming from, but of course i'm sure barryw will reply soon as it's one of his pet subjects.
but to be fair if we have less dosh will mean lots more gains for the terrorist
which affects us all
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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In theory the police and secret service hunt out the terrorist not the army.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that's right two entirely different things.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Balancing the defence budget and consolidation is essential.
The previous position where the last government had undertaken to buy equipment without ensuring the funding was in place was just irresponsible.
We are, however, left with a budget that is far too low and it needs to be increased as soon as possible to ensure we retain and extend capably with flexible forces to respond to a whole range of diverse future threats.
From the present position we can at least be sure of where and how future increased funding will be directed rather than it be swallowed up in mouth to mouth trade-offs.
I might point out that it has already been stated by HMG that the defence budget is the priority to be increased from 2015 as it should be.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
they said in 2010 that the deficit would be history by 2015, don't hold much hope of an increase in 2015 if your party is re-elected.
the deficit is likely to solved in 2026 at the present rate.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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as the rsm would say "mark time".
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Divert the aid budget.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Howard - the Eurozone problems have of course impacted on growth which has put the deficit timetable back a year. I have said many times of the need for more public spending cuts (along with other measures) to help reduce the burden on business and help boost growth to counter the Eurozone impact. The need for more cuts is growing daily. I have also said that the Defence budget, being the only government budget not to benefit from Brown's largess during the so called 'boom', should be the only budget that is not cut.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barryw,in the eurozone germany is showing growth more so than the other 26.so what is the uk doing wrong.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian - they have a very small cyclical deficit having correctly balanced their current account during the growth phase of the cycle, the opposite to what Brown did.
I did provide the figures and a graph in my blog a few weeks ago.
They also, of course, have a strong manufacturing sector that has been able to cash in due to the Euro being pulled down by the weaker economies. The opposite effect by which the stronger economies have made things worse for the weaker economies like Greece by pushing the currency too high for them. All part of why the Euro is so structurally unstable.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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well that puts us in deep sh.. then dosent it.manufaturing we havent got any more.comes to think of it we havent got much of anything any more.the whole of the uk is just a holiday camp called club mug.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Brian - our exports are up £50billion and these are made up of a whole range of different goods and services.
Our economy does need to rebalance in a way that we make more 'things' most certainly, but that is not the bee-all and end-all.
The biggest problem we have is the massive deficit that hamstrings the economy and combined with the Eurozone situation make a bad situation a whole lot harder.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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a do all and get on with it would be better attitude.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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barryw doesnt wish to comment on the terrorist issue jan
so i will leave that one
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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what terraism is that kieth,they given up and gone home.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith, why would he as I said terrorism is not policed by the army.
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